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because some people want to watch videos on their desktop PCs, in the browser, without downloading them.

@cout
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There are numerous media players like mpvthat can stream youtube. These instances are not only slow, they also sell their user’s information. Edit piped also requires JavaScript to run.

Edit2: I wont be replying further. As they all are just spamming same argument again and again.

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I’ve seen no reason to believe any privacy frontend I’ve used has done this. However, even if you are concerned about this, Freetube is a more convenient option which can use its own local API similar to how Newpipe does it while still keeping a nice interface with subscription management and such.

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However, even if you are concerned about this, Freetube is a more convenient option which can use its own local API similar to how Newpipe does it while still keeping a nice interface with subscription management and such.

That’s exactly what I said.

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You only mentioned newpipe and mpv…

@cout
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There are numerous media players like mpvthat can stream youtube.

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…yes, but freetube is actually comparable to the featureset of newpipe, piped, or invidious.

You’re approaching this as a confrontation when it isn’t one. You listed two players which are not necessarily replacements for a desktop user who wants subscription management and such, so I provided one which does.

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These instances are not only slow, they also sell their user’s information.

I’ve long wondered about this regarding alternate frontends for big sites in general, but especially about the youtube frontends like piped and invidious which must require substantial resources to operate (though sometimes they’re serving the video data itself directly from google, sometimes they’re actually proxying it too)… but, I’ve never seen any evidence of it. Have you?

In any case, many of the popular instances are running on Microsoft or Oracle clouds, and/or Clownflare, so, from a privacy standpoint it isn’t really much different than Google. I use them occasionally in Tor Browser just because they’re less likely to be blocking a Tor exit than youtube proper is.

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Watching videos over tor is not possible.

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sure it is, i do it all the time. sometimes i’ll get a too-slow circuit and need to try another, but, it works on the first try more often than not.

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These instances are not only slow, they also sell their user’s information.

Citation needed

@sexy_peach@feddit.de
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JS? Oh no just like every other website it uses JavaScript

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@cout
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Piped requires JavaScript for everything. . This post was about piped not about invidious. To avoid getting downvoted Please do some research before posting.

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There are numerous media players like mpv

that are not a part of the browser

they also sell their user’s information.

I wish you a very [citation needed].

@cout
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I wish you a very [citation needed].

These instances are not much popular so there isn’t much evidence regarding it. Nor you have any evidence that it doesn’t.

@PP44
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I have evidence that some don’t. I am personnaly part of an association running a public instance with no user data sold whatsoever.

@cout
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I have evidence that some don’t.

Where? No one posted evidence in this thread.

some don’t.

But some do. You can never be sure about all of them do same. Also what if some instances are running modified version of it.

personnaly

personally.

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Of course you can never be sure. But you cannot be sure about any local player either. Even if it is libre software, it rely on trust. Or you would have to read every piece of software used. In the same way that some software are trustworthy enough to use, some hosts are too.

Sorry if I sound aggressive, I just try to be short <3 !

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It’s not the same, any open source app can easily be checked if the build code matches with the official build, official build normally has a public log about the compilation (normally a branch/commit from git source).

Websites is harder to know if it was modified and what they do with the data collected on their database, what they do with each request as they can do a patch before deployment to change stuff from the backend.

You can type on your terminal torsocks mpv https://yewtu.be/watch\?v\=F-POY4Q0QSI and you can skip frontenders and still using Tor.

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there isn’t much evidence regarding it. Nor you have any evidence that it doesn’t.

and only one of us posted a claim without backing it up with proof.

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