Not the right wing “men’s right” thing. Some kind of left version, that would fundamentally be a feminist movement but with different branding.
Different branding would be necessary to absorb a bunch of men into it.
Not the right wing “men’s right” thing. Some kind of left version, that would fundamentally be a feminist movement but with different branding.
Different branding would be necessary to absorb a bunch of men into it.
Like men’s lib, but Marxist? I think that would be neat. It’s definitely necessary. The way men are socialized + all the incel/fascist pipelines is creating so much misery. And literally killing people. We should try to combat that as much as we can.
As a woman I really wish we would put more focus on the patriarchy. I think many communists, particularly male communists, tend to underestimate the importance of it. Maybe because whenever the patriarchy is discussed, it is usually to point out the misogyny. I wish empathy for women could be enough, but if men are taught from birth that we are their servants and accessories then their empathy has already been dampened. So it’s not enough to talk about women’s issues. We also need to talk about men’s issues in a way that keeps all this in mind.
Men’s rights movements tend to devolve into incel hellholes, but so long as a feminist lens and Marxist perspective is being utilized then there’s at least a chance that it won’t.
I hope there can be a movement of men supporting men in a non-toxic way. I really think you could accomplish so much if you made a movement based on radical compassion for each other. Men supporting men, in the ways that men need to be supported. Open up to each other, display your vulnerabilities, be soft. That would be brave.
Spoken like you’ve watch contrapoint’s men video!
From what I’ve seen, if men’s issues are brought up in leftist spaces, it’s immediately dismissed for being a kekw issue.
I have a hunch of people interested in men lib are Marxist, a lot of overlapping interests. !mensliberation@lemmy.ca
The Men’s Liberation subreddit also goes along these same lines, as a feminism-aligned counterpoint to MRA’s that instead seeks to free men from society’s harmful restrictions instead of feeding traditionalist’s grievances.
my biggest criticism of that subreddit is it’s basically all like scholars posting hoty-toty articles. Whereas like the ‘men gone their own way’ subreddit are like 50% dudes who were just dumped yesterday and are ranting hard. We could do with a men’s liberation that doesn’t automatically (via automod) remove posts by some dude who is just here to rant about his break up, but as long as the rant isn’t misogynstic.
I didn’t word this the best, and their automod is a bit different than that, but i think you get my drift