To win over consumers, vegan meat brands will need to underprice their animal-based competition. New reports show this could happen sooner than expected.
Wouldn’t that result in a situation where people who are interested in becoming a vegan are not allowed here? That doesn’t strike me as helpful or positive towards more vegans, which seems to be an interest of yours.
I am sure a few here could start an askveganism group. there is no law that we cannot be in both groups. If you create it, i’ll join and help answer questions.
That’d be something like /c/askavegan or /c/askveganism. This isn’t a community to educate carnists, its a vegan-only community.
From the sidebar:
We take for granted that if you enage in this community, you understand that veganism is about the animals. You either are vegan for the animals, or you are not (this is not to say that discussions about climate/environment/health are not allowed, of course)
No omni/carnist apologists. This is not a place where to ask to be hand-holded into veganims. Omnis coddling/backpatting is not tolerated, nor are /r/DebateAVegan-like threads
Yes, no bloodmouths / carnists allowed. Read the sidebar, rule 2.
No omni/carnist apologists. This is not a place where to ask to be hand-holded into veganims. Omnis coddling/backpatting is not tolerated, nor are /r/DebateAVegan-like threads
If you are interested in veganism, we can start an educational community, something like /c/askveganism. This is not that.
per weight? water is heavy and that must be factored in. i’d target liquid oils way before targeting an innocent potato. I often used to eat plain microwaved potatoes with no salt, spice, fat/oil and was very thin.
Well, looking at prices of products marketed towards vegans in stores, it’s a valid assumption. Of course can you eat cheap if you’re cooking yourself, but if you want to buy ready made food, vegan products are expensive as hell. And yes, it is correct that this is because of capitalism, but it’s still true - for ready made food at least.
Agreed; veganism is not at all more expensive if you cook, but the reality is that cooking requires, education, time, and energy that many people on low incomes do not have. This empathy is missing in vegan discourse; yes, veganism is a matter of life and death, but when you’re speaking to people who haven’t had / do not have the time, opportunity, or critical thinking skills to understand the philosophy and who are on the front-lines of capitalism, working long hours, coming home exhausted physically and mentally, and still living in poverty, bUt BeAnS aNd RiCe ThO just doesn’t cut it. IMHO, this is why vegan advocacy requires a holistic and intersectional approach. Meanwhile, if we do not practice empathy in our discourse, we just further marginalize people and look like elitists and zealots. Veganism and capitalism are incompatible, and praxis towards the former inevitably requires addressing the latter.
People say “veganism is so expensive” as a carnist talking point, as if it’s a fault of veganism and not capitalism.
Rice, beans, noodles, and veggies putting us in the poor house smdh.
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There’s no such thing as being “primarily vegan”. A reminder that this is a community for vegans only, so don’t participate here if you are a carnist.
Also rice, potatoes, chickpeas, and tofu are some of the highest calorie per weight foods in existence.
Fast food is not cheaper than staples under any circumstances.
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Nope, you either support animal commodification, or you don’t. Which is it?
Wouldn’t that result in a situation where people who are interested in becoming a vegan are not allowed here? That doesn’t strike me as helpful or positive towards more vegans, which seems to be an interest of yours.
I am sure a few here could start an askveganism group. there is no law that we cannot be in both groups. If you create it, i’ll join and help answer questions.
That’d be something like /c/askavegan or /c/askveganism. This isn’t a community to educate carnists, its a vegan-only community.
From the sidebar:
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Yes, no bloodmouths / carnists allowed. Read the sidebar, rule 2.
If you are interested in veganism, we can start an educational community, something like /c/askveganism. This is not that.
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per weight? water is heavy and that must be factored in. i’d target liquid oils way before targeting an innocent potato. I often used to eat plain microwaved potatoes with no salt, spice, fat/oil and was very thin.
Well, looking at prices of products marketed towards vegans in stores, it’s a valid assumption. Of course can you eat cheap if you’re cooking yourself, but if you want to buy ready made food, vegan products are expensive as hell. And yes, it is correct that this is because of capitalism, but it’s still true - for ready made food at least.
Agreed; veganism is not at all more expensive if you cook, but the reality is that cooking requires, education, time, and energy that many people on low incomes do not have. This empathy is missing in vegan discourse; yes, veganism is a matter of life and death, but when you’re speaking to people who haven’t had / do not have the time, opportunity, or critical thinking skills to understand the philosophy and who are on the front-lines of capitalism, working long hours, coming home exhausted physically and mentally, and still living in poverty, bUt BeAnS aNd RiCe ThO just doesn’t cut it. IMHO, this is why vegan advocacy requires a holistic and intersectional approach. Meanwhile, if we do not practice empathy in our discourse, we just further marginalize people and look like elitists and zealots. Veganism and capitalism are incompatible, and praxis towards the former inevitably requires addressing the latter.