Email is inherently insecure. If you want or need secure communications, that’s what software like Briar, Matrix, or Signal (yes despite some drama).

Secure emails can always be done manually with PGP and will be a lot hardier than trusting an organization that gives away subscriber payments to Western-backed coup attempts and color revolutions.

  • CriticalResist8@lemmygrad.ml
    7·
    3 years ago

    Same stuff with SimpleLogin. They said they could offer promo codes to activists or dissidents so I emailed them about how that would work, and they wanted me to send a copy of my “activist card” (whatever that is lmao).

    No I’m not going to send you a document of my identity, I have no idea who you people are lmao. edit: and it goes without saying, a document that also ties me to activity governments may not approve of.

    • savoy@lemmygrad.mlOP
      6·
      3 years ago

      Broke: card-carrying communist party member

      Woke: activist card carrier

      I got suckered into ProtonMail a few years ago as a secure way to send email given its convenience. But then what’s the point when the vast majority of my email log is going to be mailing lists/updates etc. and the things that should be encrypted aren’t really as the other party doesn’t use PGP keys?

      • Muad'Dibber@lemmygrad.ml
        5·
        3 years ago

        There have been so many attempts to make email secure and every one of them has failed… it just wasn’t built with security in mind. Its a sad state of affairs, because its so entrenched, that nothing’s going to succeed it for website signups and creating accounts.

  • Alixander Court
    5·
    3 years ago

    In principle, email is helpful for three things:

    1. Sending information
    2. Receiving information
    3. Timestamps

    When I got started using email, as long as I had those three things, I was absolutely indifferent to what platform was used.

    Email maintains its convention because everyone has an email address, or anyone can make one. I am pretty sure that minors can’t obtain a cell phone. They could get an email address and then sign up for a voip before they could go to the local cellphone provider and get one.

    I have tried Briar, it is too combersome a platform - but it is very powerful. Matrix is legit and massively under-rated. And signal remains the smoothest way to introduce people to encrypted communication.

    As security and privacy have become more relevant to me, I have been exceptionally intrigued how developers intend to use DERO.io, aside from it being P2P financial network and smart contract platform, as a messaging and email client.

  • BlackLotus
    3·
    3 years ago

    It’s about that time for me to switch. This e-mail grossed me out, and I have been thinking about moving anyway.

    Where do you all move after abandoning ProtonMail? I don’t use e-mail for anything interesting to the three letter agencies, but I’d rather not use google. Encrypted e-mail would be nice, but as several posters have already mentioned, e-mail isn’t secure for interesting conversations anyway.

    Some main features I want are custom domains, catch all addresses, and e-mail aliases. The pricing is pretty brutal at a lot of places, like Tutanota for these features.

    • carbon_dated
      1·
      3 years ago

      I use Posteo. It’s only 1 € per month and they accept cash.

    • Cysioland@lemmygrad.ml
      1·
      3 years ago

      I used to self-host but after getting pwned I switched over to Google’s paid offering. At least I don’t have to worry about it not working.