hello everyone, I’m one of the maintainers, mostly involved with osx and the settings. just joined the community with a fresh account.

I will try to be active so that we can get this community going, it would be nice to be present on a federated service such as lemmy. it seems like the creator is not around anymore so that might become a pain at some point, but we’ll see.

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Hey, it is great to have you here. I would really enjoy more content from this community. And I believe I will not be the only one.

it seems like the creator is not around anymore so that might become a pain at some point, but we’ll see.

That is not a problem. You can request to be assigned as a mod for this community and the community to be transferred to you (I would highly encourage you to do so) by making a post at !community_requests@lemmy.ml community. See one of the previous posts there if necessary. Already done (See @dessalines@lemmy.ml’s comment). This is the official way to achieve it normally, though.

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Hey, it is great to have you here. I would really enjoy more content from this community.

same, it’s good to see some of our community hangs in here.

Adda
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Quite a few from what I have seen so far, I would say. LibreWolf gets recommended rather a lot around here.

Dessalines
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Cool! I’ve given you control over this community also.

@fishonthenet
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thanks a lot!

Dessalines
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No probs :)

Vegafjord eo
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What is prioritized in the development of librewolf right now?

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main stuff that I’m aware of:

  • revamped website and docs. we have a contributor doing a wonderful job, one of the maintainers even bought a new domain, it’s very very nice. I’m rewriting some descriptions and docs, including a more in depth feature list finally.
  • a better build script that works across multiple linux distros (tho I’m not contributing to that so I don’t have details).

other stuff going on lately:

  • a bunch of changes in the settings, the changelog is rather extensive lol, but imho our setup is looking very good right now.
  • we are reconsidering ipv6 and mozilla tracking protection.
  • a while ago we started working on a librewolf specific part of the UI, where some additional settings are exposed. unfortunately on that front development kinda stagnated lately :-(
  • I remember something about dir organization on linux and also a new debian release (now that they updated upstream firefox there), but I couldn’t find the links.

next on the roadmap I would like to see us introducing crlite by default, it should be rather easy.

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Glad you are here.
Once again i am trying to make LibreWolf work for me by trying to set up KeePassXC and, once again, am tempted to give up. For me, this login-password issue is what makes me less likely to open up LibreWolf. I may need to try Bitwarden.

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What is the problem with KeePassXC? I use KeePassXC with LibreWolf and everything works just fine.

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I use the appimage, but just now when trying to install the deb, saw that i have that, too. (the browser ext. said I was using an outdated version and I was). I have the most popular FF extension for it, KeePassXc-Browser. I can see the KeePass symbol by the login and can see that I manually entered that login, password, URL in a group name in my .kdbx file. But, when I click on the logo in the login in area, it still makes me type in both login and password. Also, I am rather confused about how to organize (if I need to) my groups (I use 4 IDs online) since I use 2 PCs and the browser extension asked me to enter a title for each PC used. I am still not sure if everyone needs to use that extension, but it seems the only way. I began by using one file for each ID, then when that didn’t seem to work well, i went to one master file with 4 groups. Also, it seems the file may time out periodically and need to be reopened - that is what the browser extension seems to say. That means shutting down the app on my PC and logging into it again - almost as annoying as logging into each site - depending on how often I change sites, I guess.

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@GenkiFeral
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thanks. I’ll try to that.
i want to do things the more private way, but every damned FOSS thing I touch has glitches and/or a learning curve and sometimes what seems like my fault is not but I try for 6 hours only to fail.

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I think you would really enjoy bitwarden if you value simplicity. give a shot over the built in password manager imo, it has better synchronization and it is likely a more robust and secure solution. it also looks very nice.

@blkpws
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Why involved with osx if you care about privacy? Anything related to Apple software stuff seems a waste of time.

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cause sometimes you gotta work with what you have at your disposal, and osx users deserve privacy tools as well. also, you can make osx decently private.

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If they want privacy then why are they using OSX? That is what makes no sense for me, you can use the best browser or tool for privacy but if your OS is spying you, that tool is useless, right? I can understand there is some people that got a old device for free and it’s the only thing they have but there will be not privacy at all and if they really cared they would switch first to something else.

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If they want privacy then why are they using OSX?

a number of reasons:

  • one might not have access to other hardware.
  • one might not have the money to replace old hardware.
  • one might need high performance hardware and apple is the cheapest available (believe it or not this is true in some parts of europe, by far).
  • one might be forced to use osx for work or studies.
  • one might use different machines with different OSes for different use cases, and he wants to protect from online tracking.

if your OS is spying you, that tool is useless, right?

I don’t think osx is “spying” on you: it’s not ideal, but it isn’t a keylogger or even win10 level of bad, at least imo. you can also use osx without an apple account.

even assuming one is using an os which is very bad for privacy, it still depends on what you are trying to defend from in that specific setup. one might be comfortable with the data collection in win10 but he might want to use LibreWolf to prevent online tracking, and that’s a totally fine use case.

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Well, there is a way to remove all tracking stuff from Win10, you don’t even need a license if you are good enough for regedit.

Reasons:

  • one might not have access to other hardware.

If you live in a island isolated from tech world you don’t need to care about privacy, in this world there is more normal computers than apple products.

  • one might not have the money to replace old hardware.

If you are worried about money, apple is always more expensive and harder or impossible to repair. If you got it for free as I said on my last reply then ok but don’t expect to get privacy and with time you will need to replace it as they lower their system performance as they already said, new updates will lower your computer speed.

  • one might need high performance hardware and apple is the cheapest available (believe it or not this is true in some parts of europe, by far).

Apple is not the only good hardware company, neither cheapest. Never seen supercomputers using apple products, they are right now using modular hardware with Linux OS at least at my university. For laptops there is also very good products and cheaper. I live on Europe.

  • one might be forced to use osx for work or studies.

If they are on a work/study begin forced to use Apple, why are they there in first place? Probably because they are working for apple products and using them. It’s hard to believe you need a apple for study…

  • one might use different machines with different OSes for different use cases, and he wants to protect from online tracking.

There is enough OS in this world to test, you can ignore apple perfectly.

And unless you remove all the tracking “features” and remove the dangerous things you will have no privacy and with time you will be forced to upgrade to the next OS that will come with more tracking features like iPhone has already. If you are looking for privacy, keep away from Apple and Microsoft, also the new Windows11 is much worse. Win10 can be removed all their Microsoft stuff and even the update system, then you will need to manually install the patches (from their official website that has manual download) of new security updates and then check nothing new has been enabled/installed, this is still safer than Apple.

@fishonthenet
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If you live in a island isolated from tech world you don’t need to care about privacy

you can still be tracked around the internet.

apple is always more expensive and harder or impossible to repair

I swear to you every other high performance and lightweight laptop is more expensive in my country and I just couldn’t afford it at the time. I know it sounds crazy, I wish I could go for something else at that time, I just couldn’t (many others are in the same spot). impossible to repair is unfortunately very much true, but environmentally speaking I want to be conscious so I won’t throw it away as long as it works.

why are they there in first place?

think of video editors, ios devs, students who need software for exams that only works on proprietary OSes. it sucks I know, but it can happen.

f you are looking for privacy, keep away from Apple and Microsoft

I agree, but still. also even if you don’t use an open source OS you might want to protect from online tracking, why not?

this is still safer than Apple

I disagree with this. I can block outgoing stuff with a firewall and I can use my laptop without an account even without pirating the license (which is illegal btw). also, by default osx doesn’t collect as much data, especially if you don’t have an apple id.

@blkpws
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On Windows you don’t need to pirate anything, use regedit to remove the letter on the bottom and to change settings, they allow to do it yourself if you know enough about it. You will still have unlicensed Windows but you will be able to do all. And about high performance and lightweight computers can be found also on other companies, Apple isn’t magic… the only good thing they have is the M1 but M1 seems to work with Ubuntu already, sadly you need to mess with arm compatibility apps.

If you want to protect from tracking, why are you using Windows/Apple then? That’s my question. And you can do video editing on Linux perfectly, you just need to get into it, there are video producers that uses Linux and they do really cool stuff, students forced to run Apple system to do exams looks a joke… I wonder which university do that… here where I live all public infrastructures uses Linux and all is compatible with it for some years already.

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Welcome to the official community for LibreWolf.

LibreWolf is designed to increase protection against tracking and fingerprinting techniques, while also including a few security improvements. LibreWolf also aims to remove all the telemetry, data collection and annoyances, as well as disabling anti-freedom features like DRM. If you have any question please visit our FAQ first: https://librewolf.net/docs/faq/

To learn more or to download the browser visit the website: https://librewolf.net/

If you want to contribute head over to our Gitlab: https://gitlab.com/librewolf-community/browser

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