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Don’t require phone or email. It’s encrypted, and they are continuity improving their system to fix some lack of encrypted content/metadata.


But a country based on tourism is normally lacking a lot of support for their civilians.

Some countries try to seduce a lot of tourism making it a mess on local places, a lot of dirty, scams and drunk people (depends on which place).

An economy based on tourism is always bad for many, multiple things, like any future new pandemic or animals and insects invading places where they don’t have predators.


It’s called censorship, and they can do that with anything they dislike. But go trust them.


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So Chinese blocked and deleted all info related to this issue and forced the woman to shut up, and you still call it a successful freedom country.

That says a lot about your point of view.


abundant evidence that these governments have demonstrated that they’re consistently working in the interest of the public

Every country needs their propaganda to make people happy. Capitalist works with money, so they focus with people with money. China to keep them happy to make them the perfect workers (you can tell by the amount of factories and “made in China” products, it’s cheaper to transport it back to their countries than paying a decent salary on their own countries, and this is also very bad for environment).

what exactly you think happened to Peng Shuai

She has been re-educated.

Seems like your view of China is deeply rooted in your consumption of western propaganda about China.

I say the same (but obviously reversed xD) with your point of view.



The notion that all governments are inherently evil is simplistic, and seems to be rooted in western experience of living under a capitalist regime.

I just simplified because I’m a bit tired of this discussion, you trust to governments with the news very very controlled. And still you are using the words “Nobody should be using trust for anything, in my opinion.”

Things like what happened with Peng Shuai is what makes me think China isn’t that cool as they say. Of course, there is people living a good life there, as there is also people a good life with capitalism. They can easily delete you and all information talking bad about them.


Don’t forget the queue, you don’t need to be around a queue with people waiting for your turn, or the wait time is shorter. I neither like social interactions, so I love self-checkout.


I didn’t know about that. But for the Smart City, there is a standard already done very well and with a lot of information about how to deploy it, Europe has its own standard as China and USA has their own. Then business needs to read that LONG and extended documentation to fill the requirements on their messages. And I think here is where we have the issues, business will do the minimum and make bad implementations as always. They just need to make the user feel everything is fine.

They use a Wi-Fi protocol a bit different from your Wi-Fi devices which uses fewer data, goes faster and larger.


No, I did not think Russia would see invading Ukraine as being preferable to the status quo. Clearly Russia saw it as a bigger threat than I assumed. Nobody has a crystal ball to see the future, but what we can do is try to understand motivations and goals to try and predict what will happen.

You don’t need a “crystal ball”, just don’t trust governments. They are too used to lie to citizens.

That’s why I say all governments are evil. I like most of the post you do, but sometimes it looks like too much propaganda because you never talk bad about Russia and China, and this is my only problem with this.


That’s an incredibly ignorant statement that shows profound lack of understanding of how communism actually works. Please educate yourself on the subject you’re attempting to debate here. Some resources for you here.

I might have not the right words, but you should be able to understand what I mean. Too much power on few people is always bad. It can turn to be better than capitalist or turn into a China forcing you to be the person they want you to be.

Seems like the communism you defend is the same as what you criticize about anarchism. The biggest communism system I know right now is china, and as I am telling you, not everything is so good on China.

Communists don’t care if you’re gay or whatever you do. This is a cultural phenomenon that has absolutely nothing to do with the political and economic system. Plenty of western capitalist countries have been extremely hostile towards gay people. Go look up on what happened to Turing as an example.

I thought China was communist. (with a bit of capitalism controlled by the communist government) If you are gay there, you have much more difficulties than other countries.

I know Turing perfectly, and that’s why I blame China and Russia for their laws against LGBT right. At least in Europe, you can have a gay marriage right now.

Are you trying to conflate communism with fascism here or to claim it’s some sort of a dictatorship?

I’m not trying that, I’m comparing the feeling of the old times. You do the same as them with arguments about how well they were living, but it is basically because they didn’t get oppressed, and they followed their news and their education where got brainwashed and still now they still hate us and our culture. The important thing here is, you have a feeling that the past has been better than the current present, any fascist can feel the same.

The governments impose quite a bit more under capitalism, which is what the current state of the world is.

At least they don’t force you to throw all trash on the bin container, or you don’t get kidnapped on a “center of re-education”.

More people died from covid in US than were infected with covid in China. Think about that for a bit, especially given that China has over three times the population.

What happened on China Lockdown is horrible… USA is a shame, they don’t even have public healthcare… but there are countries where they did better without using any kind of violence to their citizens. Still china news about their death rates can’t take it seriously, they can lie like western media lies. Never seen a place outside China with so many people laying on the street or inside buildings, and you don’t know if they are still alive or dead unless they cough again.

I certainly can’t see how US meddling in Taiwan is in the interest of the people living there

Maybe because they are scared about China control and surveillance, as happened with Hong Kong. USA can use that to seduce them.

And how do you expect China to seduce them then? Can’t china spend the same money to seduce them? This makes not much sense if china is so successful.


I remember you saying Russia will not invade Ukraine, you were wrong. You trusted them and ops… They lied to media news and still invaded Ukraine. You know a lot about communism, but I don’t think you have a better vision of the reality than other people.


Taiwan is part of China. This is a well documented fact, and Taiwan’s legal standing is not in question. This is the position held by the UN, and it’s the fundamental basis for having diplomatic relations between US and China per Potsdam Proclamation that was signed 77 years ago between China, the US & the UK. This position has never officially changed.

Thanks to god Taiwan is already part of China, so China don’t need to worry or invade Taiwan, right? If china is so successful, they don’t need to worry about Taiwan and USA.

Not sure what things like sexual discrimination has to do with communism to be honest. Meanwhile, people were certainly far more free in a meaningful sense. Freedom can be seen as the measure of personal agency an individual enjoys within the framework of society, and socialist countries provide tangible freedoms such as freedom from hunger, freedom from abject poverty, freedom to have education, and so on. All these things create meaningful freedoms for people allowing them to achieve their potential.

Yes, I call China a success because quality of life in China continues to steadily improve and the government is actively working on doing things like eliminating poverty, creating public infrastructure, providing healthcare, housing, food, and education for all citizens. Chinese government practically eliminated poverty, and in fact China is the only place in a world where any meaningful poverty reduction is happening. If we take China out of the equation poverty actually increased in real terms:

Communists have fraternity, and our fraternity is growing every day.

https://yewtu.be/watch?v=NOTh6jiRNxU

The Lockdown they did is a good example why China isn’t successful, but an oppressive system that restrain your freedom. They were dying on the streets, China needed to force everyone to stay at home.

A home or food don’t make you free if you are still forced to have a lifestyle your government imposes.

Nah, the system I advocate for is demonstrably better than capitalism today and it continues to improve lives of over a billion people worldwide. Communists have fraternity, and our fraternity is growing every day.

I am from a place where we are colonized by fascists and our government is still that right now. They still say a phrase very used, “we lived better with the dictatorship rules”. That dictatorship was a friend of Hitler and killed a lot of people from my culture. Still, people say we were living better on those times.

They still want to kill us, but Europa is stopping them, as they already stopped when they sent a lot of police to beat and hit us.


If you were going to be born as gay, which country are you going to stay? One where you can date with people you like, or a place where you need to hide it from a mass surveillance for the rest of your life?

Capitalist system sucks, but they don’t care if you are gay or whatever you do, unless they start losing money.

You don’t believe in the USA/Europe news, but you believe in a government news and data which is the most controlled, manipulated and surveilled from the world. Their data and statistics aren’t transparent (there is no independent study).

The problem with Communism is that it can be as bad as Capitalism (or worse), only depends on the leader.


Yeah, maybe I am wrong, and need your illumination.

Or maybe a crowd of Communist people (Lemmygrad users) are doing mass votes to this kind of topic.


The interconnected thing, if you mean the Smart City, that will help a lot as I am working with this stuff, and it’s a lot of information being sent from infrastructure to cars that will help and improve a lot of the traffic.

The self-driving car is still very beta to be used. There are small self-driving busses on very low speed with a lot of sensors, good thing is that Smart City will give this public transport more priority (like on traffic lights) before to private transport.

But at the end as you say, all systems can be hacked and someone with the keys of an ambulance for example can be asking for green light everywhere or with the keys of the infrastructure can fake an emergency on the road and force to stop traffic.

But we are still too far from this, and I think we will first collapse as a society than have this correctly implemented.


So its bad when we disagree, but not when you libs do that.

I don’t do that, I rarely vote down… I talk about a lot of stuff, politics, tech, but when I need to talk about Communism and this kind of ideology I always get a crowd of downvotes.


I don’t have experience on that, I don’t use any kind of social media (unless Lemmy and Mastodon), so I am probably pretty wrong if those systems neither work.


Yes, I heard something like we have 90% probabilities to collapse right now already, that’s a lot.


You deleted your comment, but I mean, we could stop all those energy plants not using 100% renewable energy.

I heard the problem is not the lack of production, but the overproduction of energy.

My idea was to stop this globalization, which could help to stop pandemics also.

Keep internet and using minimum energy. And instead to have individual transport, we can stay at home or on local neighbor as a lot of work can be done from home. We could work fewer hours (4 hours 3 days on week for example) as they were already saying it was even more productive than working more hours. And spend more time for ourselves, fix our homes and infrastructures to auto-produce energy or get water properly without an excess of energy consumption.

Wind energy is not a solution as we stop that air flowing around the globe, it can kill birds and make environment worse. The sun energy is not enough for everyone, the cost to produce those solar panels are also bad for environment.


Yeah, I was thinking emojis were more kind, and I don’t even need a dislike button. I think it would be cool to use emoji reaction like with an X or with smile/laugh/xD/thinking and all those faces to quickly express my reaction. And dislike system could disappear…