I’ve been told that the stuff isn’t actually plastic, but rather clear cellulose, and can in a pinch be used as a wrap to roll a joint. Yes clear cellulose papers do exist, but you think I’d actually trust smoking cheese wrapping stuff? Hell no!
Regardless, after hearing that years ago, I did try burning a cheese wrap after that, and much to my surprise the wrap didn’t melt like plastic, it burned like paper.
I just got done trying it again, with a different brand of cheese, and yeah this one burned and melted like plastic. ☹️
I guess different cheese makers use different wrapping material, but either way, if someone suggests rolling a joint in cheese wrap, just say NO!
You are a modern day Magellan, never change
You can’t just drop a thesis like that without telling us what the good brand was my guy :(
LMFAO! I hear ya there!
Sorry to say that I don’t remember what brand of cheese it was the first time I tried that years ago, but I can tell you what brand not to use as I just basically confirmed they use plastic wrap, Great Value.
I never did try rolling or smoking a joint with either test though. Being naturally skeptical about the random advice, I only tested just burning the wrap by itself. Weed costs too much to waste on experiments ya know haha!
I can tell you what brand not to use as I just basically confirmed they use plastic wrap, Great Value
Wal-Mart’s store brand being shit doesn’t surprise me in the slightest.
Of course it was Walmart’s store brand
Indeed, what else should we expect? ☹️
I can help you on that.
The brand is Trip. It works alright (both for rolling and smoking), but there are better paper (e.g. Raw).
I’d consider it as mostly gimmick. Again, not a bad product overall, tho.
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I have clear rolling papers and they’re a cool gimmick but not at all practical for everyday use. Harder to roll and doesn’t stick to itself as well.
That just might depend on the brand and what sort of glue they used, if any. I dunno, the handful of times I smoked clear doobies with my friends, they held together just fine. 🤷♂️
They also don’t seem to burn nearly as well. IME they always needed to be relit multiple times.
I wonder if there’s any correlation with cheese wrapper joints and strains named cheese.
I dunno how things are today, but not too many years ago if you searched Google Images for blue cheese, some of the images it would bring up would actually be nuggets of weed haha!
I’ve been told that the stuff isn’t actually plastic,
Some even claim this stuff is cheese
I knew it wasn’t cheese! Cellulose!
notin America
I got a milkshake a while back, in a plastic container, with a plastic lid, for some reason it also came with a plastic spoon, and a paper straw, since they are cutting down on plastics…
>go to mcdonald’s
>order hot cakes and a large orange juice
>receive hot cakes in plastic container, with six individually plastic wrapped teaspoons of butter and a plastic tub of high fructose corn syrup and a large plastic cup of orange juice
>throw away plastic straw
>pull out reusable metal straw
>I’m saving the environment one breakfast at a time
Ha ha in France they just stopped giving you straws. The paper cup for the drinks just said on it something like "To drink, remove lid and lift cup. You’re not an infant " lol
Now they have those reusable cups and fry holders, which are suspiciously smaller than the paper ones
Only thing I noticed that was single use plastic was the little tub of sauce
"To drink, remove lid and lift cup. You’re not an infant "
Based as fuck.
That little tub of sauce could be made of waxy paper entirely, albeit probably at the cost of a lower shelf life.
And then you find out that the lid itself is made of plastic
What about people woth very limited arm use?
It’s almost as if those people would know to take a straw everywhere, seeing as they’ve lived with the condition
You’re not helping progress with constantly saying “what about…?”
do they though. I don’t think I have seen them carry their own. After all if every place as a straw then you dont need your own. But that is an easy fix for them.
What about the people who can’t eat or drink and need nutrients pumped into their body intravenously?
We cannot let the few hold back the many
Yeah only thing is those cups are like that because people have cup holders in their car or walking with open hot drinks. So calling them an infant just cuz they don’t want to sue their company burns is a bit short sighted. Weirdly bad marketing that they should overlook that as one of the most common demographic getting a packed breakfast in the morning
A) It’s for cold drinks
B) If you drink coffee with a straw you should be sent to an island somewhere with the people who drive tiny-penis trucks
Isn’t that the island we’re on already?
Don’t forget the gallon of gas you burned in the drive thru 👍
Ah the, “I’ll have a diet coke with this Big Mag, Cheesecake bites, large French Fries” mindset.
Here, the paper straws were individually packed in plastic foil.
WHAT?!???!?
Yes but that was bio-degradable plastic. It will only last 10,000 years in a landfill instead of eternity.
I know this probably isn’t the best place, but I really hate the way paper straws feel, but I also hate being handed a any straw when I can just drink straight from the cup anyway.
It’s why the EU voted in regulations today against single use packaging despite howls of protest from the fast food industry.
really? cool!
In my community, most of the lids are biodegradable. Still not great (require an industrial composter), but at least if it is left out, it does breakdown somewhat faster than “never”
I mean there was some joke libertarian candidate that literally ran under the slogan “Make America Grate Again” claiming that he would outlaw sliced and shredded cheeses to make America embrace its graters and its grating roots.
How is clamping down on the freedom companies have to make plastic cheese, and the freedom for people to buy it… Libertarian?
Isn’t that pretty authoritarian?
No no, you see, it’s because libertarians are dumb
They are tho
I bought a rotary grater about two years ago thanks to a post on Reddit and I rarely ever buy sliced cheese anymore, if I do it’s the kind that comes in one pack with parchment paper in between the slices.
If they didn’t they would all melt together cause that stuff isn’t real cheese.
when the contents have as much plastic as the packaging
Looking at the thumbnail, I assumed this was going to be a joke about the cheese being essentially plastic
They could use parchment paper I think.
Might dry out
Personally, I like cheese but I always found plastic sliced cheese just fucking gross. Melted cheese in plastic blech
Try a good deli-style American. So much better than Kraft Singles. Much lower milk content, so it’s more solid. Not individually wrapped, but individually sliced. Higher cheddar and Colby content, so its flavor is better. Still melts beautifully. Best burger cheese out there, IMO.
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American cheese is processed. Depending on the amount of milk added during that processing, you get a product with a more or less firm consistency.
Singles are liquid when they’re poured into the wrap, and then they solidify. In this they end up being far less like traditional cheese.
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It’s plastic isn’t it?
I’m never exposed my child to this stuff, she’s been raised with mild cheddar slices or better, I guess they use it in fast food places though.
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Kraft does sell non-singles sliced american cheese. Nothing between the slices and it doesn’t stick together. Also doesn’t have that plasticy taste.
We just have them separated by baking paper here.
You couldn’t be more wrong 😐
which is super ironic because this trash doesn’t melt
American cheese is specifically designed to melt well, I don’t know what you’re talking about
must be a uniquely American phenomenon because I’ve never met an individually wrapped slice of cheese that doesn’t simply blacken under a broiler like you forgot to remove the wrapper or something.
In what general area do you live? I can confirm that these American “cheese” products are designed to melt.
Hell, even real mild cheddar from a legit block of cheese melts…
Most cheese does.
Why are you putting American cheese under a broiler? It’s supposed to melt, not bubble up and brown
You must really be doing something wrong if your cheese doesn’t mostly melt, because this post of mine from like last week actually came from a block of real mild cheddar…
Remember when fruit stickers used to be paper and biodegradable? Now they’re all fucking plastic because they need their logo to be shinier I guess.
Meh, I hate stickers.
Stickers on fruit would make me pick another variety.
Where I live the only fruits that don’t have stickers are tomatoes.
That’s sad. They have to pay to add useless stickers to all their produce. And that just ends up annoying everyone.
At least the stickers have the PLU on them, helps for self-checkout. So mostly useless
Bro even tomatoes have stickers where I am. I think pineapple is the only thing they haven’t managed to slap a sticker on at this point.
I remember eating one of those biodegradable stickers once, it felt mildly uncomfortable.
Or just don’t buy American cheese because it’s gross and fake.
American cheese is the best cheese for a cheeseburger because it melts without splitting.
I always go for sharp cheddar instead which I feel is close if not better… or Bleu cheese, although that definitely is crumbly.
Just like the cheeseburger your mother could barely afford.
I still think its odd that people call that american cheese. Like, do people in the USA really want their name attached to that stuff?
Forreal haha. I just call them Kraft Singles bc I refuse to acknowledge it as cheese.
I just call it processed cheese.
I have come full circle. I loved processed American cheese food (pacf) when I was a kid because I was a kid. Then I got into fancy sliced cheeses like cheddar and Gouda. But they don’t melt as nicely! So now back to pacf for burgers and melts because it is the best ingredient for that job.
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The name brand in the US is Kraft Singles, but at least here that type of orange cheese is just referred to as American regardless of brand
I’ve never heard of Chester cheese. There’s Cheshire cheese, but that’s quite crumbly and wouldn’t hold up to being packaged like this. You might also be thinking of cheddar. A genuine cheddar would be too brittle, but in modern marketing, cheddar is often shorthand for any homogenous, yellow cheese. So this stuff might be described as cheddar on the packet.
I think this stuff is more of a cheese-flavoured sauce, that they inject into the bags and leave to set. It’s more an invention of the convenience food industry, than any culinary tradition.
The British don’t know anything about food either.
Its also cheap, tho.
Here’s the weird thing about that:
Sargento Colby Jack at Walmart, 34.7 cents/ounce
Kraft Singles at 31.1 cents/ounce
That’s an egregious example because you can find better sliced cheese (store brand) for much cheaper than Sargento even, but still disturbing to see how expensive those singles really are.
It’s delicious and who cares if something is real or not?
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Things can be related to more than one thing at a time. Banning single use plastics will be cheaper for corporations that offer them for free but it’s also better for the environment if they do not exist for decades or centuries after they’ve been used.
Two things: these are basically plastic anyways.
Also, the plastic straw thing was a PR move. Corporations don’t give any shits unless it will make money or lose them money.
I’m sure there was a nontrivial number of customers who either boycotted or threatened to boycott companies that didn’t switch. When their bottom line gets threatened like that, they take action to prevent revenue loss.
Nothing more. There’s way more problems with everything than plastic straws. My favorite PR move is how they convinced everyone that their cars are causing the majority of CO2 emissions from transit… Between that and airplanes, everyone is up in arms about the electrification of everything… Yet, the most major transport offenders are freight, and they have no plans or intention of changing their ways. I heard somewhere that if you were to have zero carbon emissions for your entire life, you would save the approximate amount that freight liners emit in a year, at most. I think a year is too long. I forget the exact figure.
They emit more CO2 than all the cars, and all the planes and everything else you could point to… Yet, I have yet to hear anyone tell me about it, either personally, or on the news or anything. Everyone seems oblivious to the facts. They latch on to these “issues” like straws and personal vehicle CO2 emissions which are trivial…
People saw that video of the sea turtle with the straw in its nose and, rightfully, got mad. If only they also got mad about microplastics being inside everyone and everything.
Public outrage from one, probably staged, viral video.
There’s a disturbing number of viral videos that are downright animal abuse against turtles just for views.
Good American cheese isn’t individually wrapped. Only the really cheap shit comes like that.
Good American cheese is the really cheap shit.
The whole point of American cheese is that it’s barely cheese and more like a delicious coagulated milk-stuff sheet.
Gourmet American Cheese is some 1%-er bullshit.
The good American cheese is not in fact “1%-er bullshit”. Have you gone to a restaurant like McDonalds? You have eaten the better stuff, which comes pre-stacked in a large block. It is certainly much better.
Wait … did you just tell me that McDonald’s uses gourmet cheese??
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Its been years since I’ve been to McDonald’s, but you mean to tell me they stopped charging an extra dollar for ‘cheese’?
“That’s where they get ya. That’s why I always travel with extra cheese slices.”
The fact that you called McDonalds a “restaurant” has me cracking up, while yes, it technically is, no one goes there to have a nice sit down meal with the family.
Cheddar is so much better than American.
Have you gone to a restaurant like McDonalds? You have eaten the better stuff,
McDonald’s
the better stuff
L-O-L
Idk what that other guy is on but our grocery deli has American cheese they slice themselves, it’s not much more expensive than craft
Kraft American Pre-sliced bulk packs are the pinnacle of American Cheese. It’s actually diminishing returns anywhere after that.
Thank you for fighting the good fight. Kraft Singles make people not want to try deli-style American. It makes me sad.
Kraft has “Deluxe American” cheese slices that aren’t individually wrapped and have a better flavor and texture.
I have some in my fridge right now, actually, as it’s the most consistently stocked deli-style brand at my local market. I’m a fan!
Kind of depends. Vermont cheddar cheese is fantastic and very nice but if you looking for a good smash burger or juicy Lucy burger you have to use that crappy Kraft singles stuff for the proper melt. Sure you can get Kraft in a block of sliced cheese but I am rarely cooking for like 50-100 people, which these blocks come out of.
Kraft cornered the market for a stable cheese in the early 1900’s here in America that melts really nicely and has a long shelf life with Velveeta.
A fun short little history and company story is by the Company Man on YouTube https://youtu.be/Hp0uhC15RtI?si=JAPmRQztP7ee5eSU
But even Guga Foods on YouTube highly recommends using the crappy cheese over the fancy stuff
I think by Good American cheese they meant something more like this:
https://www.landolakes.com/products/cheese/deli-american/
It is very much a different thing than Kraft Singles, you can get however much or little of it (or various competitors) you want anyplace that has deli meats, and the per-pound cost is not that much more, last I checked.
Although some kinds of cheddar might be made in the US, I don’t think Vermont Cheddar is what anyone usually has in mind when they say “Deli American Cheese.”
I’ve had no problem getting a good melt on burgers with “good” American, FWIW.
I had no idea. Thanks!
No problem!
I actually really do like Cheddar in those scenarios sometimes, but I agree with the prior comment that it doesn’t melt as nicely. 🙂
Deli American is as close to Vermont Cheddar as Turkey is to Chicken haha
Most block cheeses with a good fat and moisture content will melt well when shredded off the block right before you intend to use it. The pre-shredded or pre-sliced stuff has additives like starch in and on it to stop it from sticking together in the package and melting during transit, which prevents a good melt. Get yourself a cheap rotary shredder from Amazon (they’re like $20, mine never stays clean because I use it like every other day) and see for yourself.
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Fake Plastic Cheese, good radiohead song.
I admit growing up pretty poor, these were considered a treat lol.
You may be remembering Radiohead a bit differently than the rest of us.
I don’t know what you’re talking about. The lyrics seem pretty clear about the song being about cheese.
Her green plastic ez-cheese can
For her fake Chinese cooking pan
In the fake cheesy earth
That she ate from a spray cheese can
In a town full of muenster plans
To get rid of American
It wears her out
It wears her out
It wears her out
It wears her out
She lives with a queso hand
A sliced American hand
That just crumbles and molds
He used to get pepper jack
For girls who want that jack
But American always wins
And it wears him out
It wears him out
It wears him out
It wears
She looks like the fake cheese
She tastes like the fake cheese
My fake plastic cheese
But I can’t help the feeling
I could chew through the sealing
If I just turn and taste
And it wears me out
It wears me out
It wears me out
It wears me out
And if it could be cheese you wanted
If it could be cheese you wanted
All the cheese
All the cheese
Poetry.
Considered the following:
The slices of cheese are analogous to each of our individual lives: it’s boring, manufactured, and there is a wrap of plastic which define us as individuals but keeps separate from one another. The only good aspect of American cheese is that it is designed for melting, so in essence, by removing the plastic barrier that keeps us separated, we, like the humble slices of American cheese, can melt and become part of something greater than our individual selves (like a burger or a grilled cheese).
Or as Karl Marx once said: Life is plastic, it’s fantastic.
Being compared to American Cheese is the worst insult I’ve ever endured.
cook yourself between two pieces of bread and maybe you’ll be compared to american grilled cheese instead
I really want American cheese that is not wrapped in plastic. Kraft makes it but it costs more than double the plastic wrapped stuff. I’ve paid that price when times were plenty but they are no more.
Buy a cheese slicer and thank me later. Another pro tip buy cheese from Amish people if you can, I love like 30 minutes away from an Amish store & their cheese is on another level.
Random tip, if you have a block of cheese but no slicer, you can wrap it once with dental floss where you wanna cut and pull the ends together to cut through the cheese. It can be just a tad awkward though, just basically try to make sure the floss ends stay lined up on the plane of the cut. I dunno, just a quick hack anyways.
Mmm, minty
LOL, I hear ya, but there’s also flavorless dental floss. Whatever, quick hack of a half-ass LPT.
Have you ever heard of a “knife” before?
Yes, broke the handle on one the other week trying to cut through one. Cheese has a very high friction when trying to cut with a knife. That’s why they make cheese cutters.
Dental floss works better than breaking kitchen knife handles…
I guess it depends on how big the block is to begin with.
I’m not buying multiple kilograms of cheese in one setting.
I have a cheese and meat slicer on my wishlist, I’ll get there one of these days.
Cheese slicers are like $10? Times that tough?
Can’t say I even find the ones individually wrapped appealing, cheaper or not. I wouldn’t be surprised if it’s not even real cheese.
It’s “pasteurized processed American cheese product” according to the label.
Cheese product makes me think that there is so little actual cheese in it they can’t legally call it cheese.
My understanding is it is made from reconstituted powdered milk.
We store a lot of dairy products in caves throughout this country I have been told.
American cheese is so processed anyways is it any better with or without the plastic?
Markedly. The stuff wrapped in plastic is like play dough in comparison to getting it in a block or sliced from the deli counter.
No joke, I worked in a deli and my friend would ball up a slice of american cheese and use it as a bouncy ball. That shit is wild.
Just use Swiss Cheez, it’s spreadable. I don’t eat anything without it.
Are you okay?
Get whiz pilled
I’ve just realised why that stuff always tastes like plastic
Cheese like this always tastes gross.
This is not real cheese, it is american cheese.
For the record, good American cheese does exist. It’s just a blend of cheddar and Colby with some annatto for seasoning, instead of the extruded “cheese product” stuff in plastic wrappers.
Oh yes, sorry.
“”“”““cheese””“”“” like this always tastes gross.
Grilled cheese sandwiches would like a word with you
True those taste good, but they taste even better made with Havarti or Gouda
The reason single slice cheese is great for grilled cheese is due to the emulsifiers in it. Even if you use other cheese you want to throw a slice of that in there to bind it all together.
Or some other melting cheese like jack. For sure though American cheese or Velveeta are fantastic melting cheeses for a good cheese blend.
No thanks. I prefer actual cheese on my sandwich. Not this salt paste. flings the frisbee cheese back at you take this abomination away.
A daily reminder that durable biocellulose plastics have been available for over 75 years.
