• Aria 🏳️‍⚧️🇧🇩 [she]@lemmygrad.ml
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      Redditors were cheering on Poland for “protecting Europe and Europeans from Middle Eastern savages” when Belarus was allegedly importing migrants from the Middle East and sending them in droves to Poland back in 2020-21.

      Poland was always seen as a “good guy” by these people.

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    What’s that money going to buy when you have to pay far more for less energy? (Also, why tf did they use ducks for the wall?)

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    I honestly think that the whole “civilised” thing started back in Ancient Rome when they called all the other non-Romans “Barbarians” to dehumanise them, which didn’t change at all, also how tf do you want to build a wall ON the Black Sea??

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          Kinda, greeks used it for anyone not speaking greek. Just good ol racism: Persians, Romans, Phoenicians, Scythians, and Egyptians - Barbarians.

          Romans took it to mean those out of greco-roman influence, hence the talk of barbarians.

          Greeks also specifically named modern day Red Sea African countries (Sudan-Eritrea-Somalia) as Barbaria, their people as Barbars/Berbers.

          From here it entered semitic languages like Arabic to mean people whose language is not understandable, and when Arabic expanded to north africa due to muslim conquests, they started naming Amazigh peoples of the saharan desert as berbers, since their language was different.

          And berbers started receiving that name in Europe, settling their name forever after, because of feared berber piracy on the mediterranean.

          So it’s indeed based on the greek word (most likely), but every group through time and geographic places has used to mean different peoples: non-greeks, non-grecoromans, non-semitics (for arameic languages and arabic speakers the people of Somalia spoke weird language compared to arameic languages in eritrea-ethiopia-sudan at the time), etc.

          • Greeks also specifically named modern day Red Sea African countries (Sudan-Eritrea-Somalia) as Barbaria, their people as Barbars/Berbers.

            Here’s the thing, though: Sudan-Eritrea-Somalia are neither North African countries (they’re more Central-East African) nor too close to Greece, so how did they even name that place Barbaria? They had to be aware that such a place exist. Did they send a few Greek people to explore Africa to look at their way of life and they ended up calling it Barbaria simply because they didn’t like the way they lived?

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              They (grecoromans) did travel the Red Sea, because Egypt traded through there with Asia, so they were interested: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Periplus_of_the_Erythraean_Sea

              They called it Barbaria because they didnt understand, might have thought the language to be too unique for the region, it happened too long ago to be sure: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Barbaria_(region)

              In general, a lot of people dont understand that even Chinese Han Empire and Roman Empire actually had contacts, they just never explored them any further “because my culture is clearly superior anyways”. They were aware the world was bigger than they controlled, but Persia was always inbetween

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      also how tf do you want to build a wall ON the Black Sea

      Hey didn’t the Nazis want to do something like that? Drain the Mediterranean and build a wall there?

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        This? https://yewtu.be/watch?v=TEdsQmjLMKs

        Not technically a Nazi proper because that term hadn’t been coined yet, but wouldn’t be surprised if he held similar beliefs.

        This idea was later used by the author of the novel Man in the High Castle, who describes Nazis doing it. That’s probably where people got the Nazis misconception from.

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    Better idea: build a wall to keep the “civilized” parts of Europe contained like a landfill.

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    This wall can be used to [REDACTED] them

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    Poor Ireland. Geography truly screwed them. I also love how if you continued the line, Turkey would be split in half…accurate. Flip floppers, Turkey only truly supports Turkey, so they conform to the broken clock concept.

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    They managed to freeze 20 billion in assets.

    Thats a roughly 2009km border for hungary minus 175km border with serbia, and 2114km of border for serbia, minus 175km border with hungary. Total = 3773km

    Kaliningrad is 232+275km = 507km. Russia-Finland = 1340km, Russia -estonia = 294km, Russia-Latvia = 214km, Belarus-Latvia = 173km, Belarus-Lithuania = 679km, Belarus-Poland = 418km, Belarus-Ukraine = 1084km, Russia-Ukraine = 2295km

    TOTAL = 10777 km

    Money/KM = 20000 million / 10777 km = 1.856 million per km = 1856 euro/meter

    I am feeling some corruption.

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      +they didn’t finish Russian border with Ukraine properly, they forgot to border 5 Oblasts: Crimea, Donetsk, Lugansk, Zaporizhzhia and Kherson.