• Muad'Dibber@lemmygrad.ml
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    2 years ago

    Why did you post “most mentally sane” sopuli user, instead of a comment debunking that post? Even liberals deserve to hear the truth, not borderline ableist insults.

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      2 years ago

      Because you don’t argue with fascists

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          2 years ago

          Il just saying that being fascist is insane, no weird - ism things

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            You said someone was mentally unstable. That is saneism, a form of ableism directed at the mentally unwell. As a mentally unstable person myself, I don’t find my condition to be related to fascist beliefs at all.

            Aside from casting aspersions on mentally unwell people, I think it’s important not to equate fascism and mental instability, as there are plenty of very stable, very calculating people who are pushing fascism.

            We can’t fall into the trap of believing fascism is just a mental health problem, that’s rather similar to the refrain of Americans who argue that mental health is the problem leading to gun violence, and not a culture of reinforcing the dehumanization of others and glorifying oppressive violence.

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              “Least ideologically and morally wrong fascist” was too long

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                Obviously you can respond to stuff like this however you want (and let me be clear, I absolutely agree that the post in question was just. . . not anything. An article whose source was trust me bro? ooookay) but it’s not surprising your comment was removed, and in the end it didn’t help to explain to the confused onlooker why the article wasn’t worth anyone’s time.

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                  well yeah maybe i fed the troll responding to that post, its not worth responding to those types of threads in the end, they just want to see the world burn

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                    I can’t argue that the post was almost certainly not linked to in good faith, and the poster was definitely not going to be interested in hearing counter-points, but I try my best to remember that the comments aren’t for convincing the poster (not worth it, as you said) but to convince the onlooker who’s silently scrolling through conversations about topics they don’t understand.

                    Those are the people we can reach and teach. Though, of course, in the process we’re likely to get a lot of bad faith responses that will trouble our blood pressure, so, y’know, pick your battles.

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            I don’t believe fascists are insane and I wouldn’t make a comment like the one you did. But the removal stinks of tone policing to me and I fail to see how it makes the site safer for “mentally ill” people.

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              You wouldn’t mind if frippa called you mentally ill every time they disagreed with you, instead of engaging with the content of what you’re saying? What about a racist slur instead of an ableist slur? We very much do tone policing here too.

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                  That’s not cool at all. And this thread is frippa whining about not being able to call ppl mentally ill as a slur.

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                    I guess I’m failing to see how hurtful the comment they made could be for other people. I agree it shows a belief that people who don’t fit the definition of sanity deserve less respect, but I’m soured by the timing.

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        This shows a lack of consciousness, and reeks of ultraleftism. Debunk and educate, don’t rely on slurs.

        That person is clearly a misguided liberal, not a fascist, and everyone in that thread deserves to hear the truth also.

        Those with a “Left” deviation in their thinking magnify contradictions between ourselves and the enemy to such an extent that they take certain contradictions among the people for contradictions with the enemy and regard as counter-revolutionaries persons who are actually not.

        • Mao