• AgreeableLandscape☭@lemmygrad.ml
    27·
    2 years ago

    Suddenly the cryptobros don’t like the fact that anyone can use it anymore.

    Pedophiles paying for CP and murderers paying for hitmen? That’s just the cost of currency freedom, apparently (not making it up, I’ve seen cryptobros defending both under the guise of if you suppress them you suppress everyone). But a country the US hates paying to feed its people? Now that goes too far!

    • guojing
      412·
      2 years ago

      Who are these “cryptobros” you are talking about? I dont think it makes sense to shove all people who use some technology in the same group, just because of a vocal minority.

      • FossilPoet@lemmygrad.ml
        131·
        2 years ago

        1. You know exactly who they’re talking about, you even reference it at the end with “vocal minority.” It’s not a minority though, I don’t know how you could jump on board with the concept without being enthusiastic about it. I don’t know a single person involved in crypto that isn’t singing its praises to a fault, online or offline, and “coincidentally” they all dislike when the “bad guys” get involved despite going on about endless use cases.

        2. I’m tired of seeing arguments that it’s just a tool/technology. Folks always claim it’s somehow being used incorrectly because the use case doesn’t match expectations. It’s more an ideology (borderline mysticism with some claims made about it) and always has been, which is why calling people a cryptobro even sprung up. Being defensive about it/staying in denial about that doesn’t improve the situation.

        3. Why does this just feel like a bad faith Reddit response? Like, to the point it got me and is now making me respond? Just scrolling through your comment history is a sea of negativity directed toward others here. I’m not talking civil disagreement and discussion, but constant disbelief and outrage at others in the community. Can we leave that stuff at the door when we come here?

        • guojing
          18·
          2 years ago

          I don’t know a single person involved in crypto that isn’t singing its praises to a fault, online or offline, and “coincidentally” they all dislike when the “bad guys” get involved despite going on about endless use cases.

          Please show me where I posted anything like that.

          I’m tired of seeing arguments that it’s just a tool/technology.

          But it is a technology. You disliking the userbase doesnt change that.

          Just scrolling through your comment history is a sea of negativity directed toward others here.

          So you obviously read nothing more than my last five comments.

          It seems like you have some irrational hatred of anything crypto, and instead of a factual discussion, you resort to personal attacks against me. How about we leave that at the door?

      • PolandIsAStateOfMind@lemmygrad.ml
        171·
        2 years ago

        No idea. But cryptos in general are ideal means to move black money around and CIA is doing a lot of black money, so i would be heavily surprised if they would not have their hands and possibly control deep into crypto in general.

        • pinkeston@lemmygrad.ml
          9·
          2 years ago

          I don’t have the source on hand but ClA has admitted that they have a “deep hand” in the crypto msrkets

          • folaht@lemmygrad.ml
            1·
            2 years ago

            Is that an admission of the cryptography market or the cryptocoin market?
            These two are not the same.

            I’m not saying I know for sure that the CIA doesn’t have a deep hand in it,
            but I do want some clear answers in terms of feasibility before I believe it.

            • pinkeston@lemmygrad.ml
              3·
              2 years ago

              The interview conversation topic at hand was about cryptocurrencies. I read the article on a cryptocurrency website

              • folaht@lemmygrad.ml
                1·
                2 years ago

                Link?
                I just web-searched around and found that the CIA is working on anti-ransomware projects.
                Other than that, one site was speculating about Bitcoin being a CIA project, since it uses a cryptography method designed by the NSA and then we delve back into the cryptography issue again.
                There has been cryptography algorithms that had deliberate weaknesses so the CIA could look into them, but those have been exposed and it’s generally not a good idea anymore since they get found out rather quickly these days.

                Other than that, I did some digging into the Satoshi Nakamoto character and it’s pretty clear that there’s only person that could have made it and he’s clearly not a CIA asset from what I’ve found out about him. He clearly had a good reason to keep his identity as hidden as possible and I just hope he is still doing okay with the current political landscape that we have right now.

        • folaht@lemmygrad.ml
          1·
          2 years ago

          How would they control cryptocoins when that stuff is uncontrollable in the first place?
          I can understand Tether or Ripple, but Bitcoin and others not so much.

            • folaht@lemmygrad.ml
              1·
              2 years ago

              Because all transactions, additions and rule changes are done by consensus of the miners.
              And the miners are mostly automated servers that say yes to all transactions, yes to all additions followed by the guidelines set up at creation and no to any large rule changes. of which the changes are already quite limited by the already existing blockchain.
              So much so that when a large theft has taken place, either a fork is created or nothing is done about the theft at all.
              And thefts have been made.

              This is why so many alt-coins keep popping up, as Bitcoin is easily surpassable in terms of function/technology and it’s also why “Satoshi Nakamoto” decided to quit the Bitcoin project and went on to create another.

              Tether on the other hand is a promise that you will get US dollars for the Tether you buy. Their transactions are not done by miners, but by Tether Incorperated. Control Tether Incorperated and you control all Tether transactions.

              • PolandIsAStateOfMind@lemmygrad.ml
                41·
                2 years ago

                Funnily enough, USA accuses DPRK of stealing cryptos all the time, and for huge sums. Question, it is real? The answer is, assuming the thefts are real and are not just one more slander story, if DPRK can do it, CIA can do it even easier (then blame DPRK because why not, nobody can confirm it anyway). And the recent, hugest theft was strangely coinciding in time with CIA losing one of the longstanding sources of their black money, afghan opium trade.

                About tether, it means they can control it even easier.