• pingveno
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      2 years ago

      That NATO map is perplexing. If it’s trying to show Russia vs NATO, why doesn’t it show Russian allies as well? Also, it’s worth pointing out that it can also be interpreted as countries being afraid of Russia? After all, NATO has not actually started a war with Russia post-Soviet Union, but Russia has invaded both Georgia and Ukraine.

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        Nato has started (or been involved in establishing US dominance in) 5 wars just in the past 30 years: attacking / overthrowing Iraq (twice), overthrowing Yugoslavia, overthrowing Libya, overthrowing Afghanistan, attacking Syria.

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      Don’t draw alt history. Countries wanted to join NATO cause they were afraid of and disgusted by Russia. There’s nothing good in Russia that would make any civilised country happy to befriend Russia.

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          Yes, Estonia, Lithuania, Latvia, Poland, Czech Republic, and many more (especially recent Finland and Sweden) NATO countries are civilised countries and they (listen closely) chose to be in NATO.

          • ☆ Yσɠƚԋσʂ ☆
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            Yeah really had to get in on all that civilized action of massacring people in countries like Libya.

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              The difference is that I can protest such actions. Russians (and many more living in dictatorships) can’t.

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                Adorable that you believe that. People like Snowden, Assange, Manning, and many others might disagree.

                • kujaw
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                  They didn’t protest, they where whistleblowers who stole (not all of them, sometimes they were just given) and published classified documents. You can’t compare that to standing with a blank or invisible posters (https://www.bbc.com/news/blogs-news-from-elsewhere-26936770) and getting arrested, as in Russian Federation.
                  I can do this in my country. My Russian friend couldn’t do this in Russia.

                  • ☆ Yσɠƚԋσʂ ☆
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                    They revealed the horrific shit that the state does and were prosecuted for it with extreme prejudice. You can clown around in your country as long as you’re deemed to be a clown and not a threat.

              • ☆ Yσɠƚԋσʂ ☆
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                Yeah, that must be it. After all, you couldn’t possibly be getting downvoted because of the quality of your comments. 😂

                  • ☆ Yσɠƚԋσʂ ☆
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                    What I can see is that you’ve been consistently wrong about everything you claimed for the past four months. The most hilarious part is how hard you go at it, like you just can’t help yourself. It’s absolutely hilarious.