SnowCode
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I actually don’t know that much about that. I am against centralization, not against GMO itself. I think many anti-GMO arguments are actually anti-monoculture arguments (except the ones about health).

I don’t know if GMO would be useful for local-scale agriculture. Maybe you can help me on that one?

@ajz
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71Y

In the past some people have embraced GMO with the advertisement idea that it can “solve world hunger”. In that rude statement lies hidden violence. There is simply enough food worldwide, but the distribution of it is not equal. How about stopping post-colonization altogether and give “third world” countries the respect and support they have always deserved. GMO is an artificial “1st world” product to make the rich countries richer and has a devastating effect on the ecological system at large.

@ksynwa
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51Y

Seems like a large part of why industrialisation of farming took place was to make the process of agriculture more capital intensive and increase profits. Industrialisation of farming has had awful effects on the environment but another effect is that it displaces farmers who are then forced to move into cities, therefore adding to the reserve army of labour and reducing wages, which is again good for capital owners. GMO has played a part in this too, with the added fuckery of IP laws in something as fundamental as agriculture. This is the case in India at least.

Lots of these ex-farmers would be better off if they owned land and grew food for their own communities or for the market rather than making useless commodities.

@ajz
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21Y

Good point! And with the loss of small farmers also centuries old farmer wisdom goes. I grew up in a city but as a child I was slightly involved with small scale agriculture and I learned that it is important to give the soil some fresh air breathing and use variety. Planting e.g. potatoes on the same piece of land year after year is not a good idea. And this is a problem with large mono-culture approach agriculture.

Christian
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61Y

I don’t object to it in general, but my understanding is that in practice most GMOs are designed for pest/pesticide resistance, which can select more aggressive pests, and that’s not good for plant diversity. There are also some pretty awful issues with patents/copyrights, and problems with the specific pesticides many of the GMOs are intended to promote. Good GMOs are definitely possible, but when the majority of GMOs are under control of evil corporations like Bayer-Monsanto I cannot consider myself pro-GMO.

@joule
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51Y

I think they’re fantastic for the reasons others have mentioned already. They can also be used to tackle important issues relating to food & nutrition (see golden rice).

My only concern is that companies sometimes “copyright” a GMO and then sue farms who are growing it without having purchased it (e.g. when seeds blow across from a nearby farm). It’s been a while since I heard about that though; I’m not sure if it’s still an issue.

@creativeBoarClimate
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As someone who works out of an institute that focuses on genetic techniques (though not actually being in that field myself) and having a background in applied genetics I see the benefits and safety self evident: Creating crops that are pest resistant and do not require chemical agents for pest control will help restore insect numbers. And proving a GM organism is safe is a rigorous and slow process.

However, I don’t have a good source on either. But I’m willing to find one if there is lively discussion (though most people wont be able to read the sources without a university connection as they’re rarely open access)

@pingveno
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51Y

And GMO crops can mean less land used to produce the same amount of food, leaving land that would have been fields as wilderness instead.

@creativeBoarClimate
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31Y

As goes with veganism. More land back to the environment

@ajz
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GMO is pure evil. Sad to see so much support for it here. Recommended films to watch to get an idea about small scale agriculture : https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Our_Daily_Bread_(2005_film) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/We_Feed_the_World

@Chloe
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51Y

I trust academia more than films

@ajz
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21Y

The films are just an example to show more about small scale agriculture versus super large mono culture. And large mono culture is what Monsato stands for. It is a little bit similar with large supermarkets pushing away small grocery stores.

SnowCode
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18M

Sure monoculture is not a good idea, but it doesn’t really mean GMO though. It’s not the same thing.

@creativeBoarClimate
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41Y

From the first link. Mon$@nt0 is evil, no question. All tools can be misused. From my understandining, over the last five years there’s been solid pushback and they’re becoming less powerful in the realm of GM

Nit sure what the second link is about. Generally docos are no longer accurate after 15 years

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