This is something I wanted to bring up for a while now, so here we go.

If you use Reddit, you are probably familiar with the “karma score” that it displays on user profiles, based on the points from all of the user’s posts and comments. Lemmy also has this for now, but I think it is bad and should be removed.

Having a global score like that makes sense from the perspective of a company like Reddit, because it encourages users to post more, which increases “engagement”, giving them more money from ads and investors.

But from the community perspective, such a score has a lot of negative effects, like users (or bots) posting low quality content with the only goal of increasing their karma score.

Mastodon has given a good example for how to do it differently. For the most part, numbers are hidden (like boost or fav count), and only visible for a single post at a time. I saw a lot of comments that this helped to create a healthier discussion culture because people are encouraged to look at the actual content, and not on some numbers.

So what do you think about this? Any thoughts or suggestions?

  • DessalinesA
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    5 years ago

    Hrm. I’m torn.

    One side of me hates the way reddit and twitter obscures or hides votes, whether to protect their blue checkmarks, or potentially lie about popularity. I definitely want popularity to be a transparent thing, and I really don’t like the way mastodon hides that.

    But yes karma farming is annoying. I want lemmy to be more content-centric, and less people-centric, so I spose I have no problem with not showing total karma on user pages. There’s also the debate on whether karma farmers are really bad at all, since they’re just posting popular content.

    I know a lot of the hatred around karma farming is really a hatred of bots, which I’d be more interested in protecting against, than hiding a user’s contribution numbers.

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      5 years ago

      I’m not saying hide votes completely, but one thing we could do is not display points on the overview pages (like /c/asklemmy), but only showing them once you open a specific post. That would remove them from the focus a bit.

      Karma farmers are a problem, because a lot of times they post low quality content (like reposting top posts from a few months ago, with no effort at all). That is not what we should encourage, and if we make points less important, hopefully people wont even bother with karma farming.