• sukotai
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    5 years ago

    community should promote federate chat solution like xmpp or matrix. Everything dealing with your privacy should be federated.

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      5 years ago

      Well that’s not quite true. First federation means sharing a lot of metadata: you have to federate so finding users on a federated i hard without sharing metadata. Matrix “leaks” a lot of metadata. Privacy with “what” you say? Yes, but most offer you this. Privacy with who talks to who, where, etc? Nope.

      Signal is Open Source and server builds are replicable (you can be sure that they run official on their AWS server), being centralised means that almost no metadata is leaked. But I also dislike the ways OWS and Moxie make their decisions.

      I recomend you reading the whitepaper of Session at getsession.org. Session is decentralised and it has all the Signal benefits (Signal protocol, and no metadata). How? Onion routing. As said, read about it I recommend you a lot.

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        4 years ago

        What is the difference between Session and Tox?

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        4 years ago

        Actually I just tried Session and I don’t know if I will keep it. It drained 30% of my battery, if a app requires additional configuration to make it usable without draining all the battery, it cannot be a wide-used alternative unlike Signal according to me.

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        4 years ago

        server builds are replicable

        Assuming this is what is really running on the server side, and there is no way to prove it. And there is no way to run an independent server and federate with the walled garden.

        being centralised means that almost no metadata is leaked

        This is plain false.

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      5 years ago

      My biggest issue with that is that you almost never know exactly who is running an instance and what their attitudes or competence on privacy and security are. The attack surface just got widened.