• AItoothbrush@lemmy.zip
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    Yeah its one thing if youre a trump supporter because then you are just a sheep but i actually dont understand whats going on in the head if those who have to think about the decision

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    I’m really hoping Harris wins, and we can make politics boring again. I know that if Trump wins, we’ll hear about all the insanity he will put in place for the next four years.

    Sure, if he loses, Trump will cry foul, but that doesn’t have the same legs as it would if he wins.

    I just want Trump to be some washed out TV “celebrity” and politics to be as entertaining as it always is: not very.

    I’m not American and all I hear about right now is American politics. Y’all need to figure your shit out.

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      If Trump loses, that dissolves the Trump cult and the next Trump that comes along will just be compared to Trump

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      Trump is not the problem. Trump is the symptom. The problem is a somewhat powerful minority faction in the US actively pushing to dismantle our democracy. Project 2025 wasn’t written by Trump and didn’t write itself.

      Harris’ win is step 1. We then need to push to shore up our democracy and prevent a more cunning trump replacement.

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      If Trump wins, the world will become a way less hospitable place even faster. This is literally the fight for the last resources, and the 1% wants it all. Trump is a Billionaire enabler… nothing else.

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    As an American:

    AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH!!!

    inhales

    AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH!!!

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    Americans are watching this too and wondering what the fuck is wrong with our fellow Americans. This should not even be close.

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      I’m really hoping that it isn’t close and that the polls were lying “just to make it interesting”

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      America is a fascist nation dripping in right wing propaganda.

      If we elect Trump a second time, the only people who can express shock are the ones who have never seen a neighbor wave a Confederate flag, brandish a Blue Lives Punisher logo, have FOX News blasting away in the living room, or demand you laugh at their joke full of ethnic slurs.

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          Ok maybe you’re not a fascist country, but you’ve been dipping your toes in the fascism pool for decades, just waiting for the water to be warm enough.

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      Maybe don’t turn important political processes into a sports match. Try a little logos with your ethos.

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    With electoral reform, we could have more then two artificially limited options. We could have competition in our elections. We could be free…

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      But currently you aren’t and the options are damage control or burning the house down…

      • A French person that was in a similar position a few monthes ago.
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        Great point. If Americans don’t like their options, they should spare a thought for French progressives holding their nose and voting for Macron, over and over and over.

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          Eeeeeeh I’m not going to compare Macron and Harris. She’s not been a stepping stool for the R again and again and again.

          I was referring to our last legislative election (think Congress if you need an American point of reference). It happened last summer and Left wing voters had to make a coalition up to the socialist party and the greens which are our centrist parties.

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            She’s not been a stepping stool for the R again and again and again.

            She’s campaigning with Mike Bloomberg, Jeff Flake, and Liz Cheney. I’ve seen nothing to suggest she’s learned from Clinton or Obama in this regard.

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      I think the first, most realistic progress we can make is to get a few more states to sign the National Popular Vote Interstate Compact. It’s a agreement between state legislature to assign their electors based on the national popular vote, and it automatically goes into effect once enough states have signed on to guarantee 270 electoral votes.

      It bypasses the need to pass a constitutional ammendment that is functionally impossible to get through.

      And it’s within grasp. Enough states have already signed on for 209 of the 270 threshold (Maine just signed it into law in April), with several states pending for another 50 (e.g. Nevada is waiting on governor’ssignature).

      We’re shockingly close to killing the electoral college, and nobody seems to know about it.

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      Don’t romanticise it. You’ll still have a small number of options in total, and you’ll be unlikely to shake the dominance of the 2 major parties. You’ll still worry about “wasting” your vote on a party who will get low representation. You’ll still be disappointed when the centre left don’t do anything meaningful. You’ll still be powerless when the right hold government. You’ll still have trouble finding someone you want to vote for.

      Yes it’s better, but it’s not Paradise.

      Source: Lived in New Zealand under MMP for five electoral cycles.

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        As a NZr, I agree. But it does make smaller third parties viable. In NZ, Greens, ACT and NZ First are all third parties where a vote is not wasted if their block wins

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    Drive home from democracy and child, reflecting… this is all a referendum on whether we choose kindness or selfishness going into the scarcity age. If evil wins today, it’s not just about this government and this population. It validates whether the uprisings in Europe are a lag behind or a forward trend.

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    And for some reason, this is called democracy. I love how fellow Americans this time of the 4 year cycle. They become more self aware and stop name-calling people from other authoritarian states.

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    The worst one for me is that there’s some chode near me that displays a flag on his house fucking bragging that he’s voting for a convicted felon.

    They’re proud of the fact that they’re supporting a criminal, and I bet they’d be ok with him if he was an open Nazi as well (they’re just fine with the same tactics and having literal Nazi flag wavers in their midst).

    • 𝕾𝖕𝖎𝖈𝖞 𝕿𝖚𝖓𝖆@lemmy.world
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      Adam Conover’s last video changed my view on the shock. They’re not voting for him despite his bad qualities. They’re voting for him because of his bad qualities. Telling them he’s a Nazi and a felon and blah blah blah will reinforce their idea that he’s the right guy. When people who worked in his government come out against him, the response is, “Of course they did. They’re part of the swamp we’re trying to drain.”

      Reason is dead. We’re never going to convince these people that Trump is unfit for the job and a horrible human being. It’s time to stop being so shocked these people exist. They always have and will continue to exist. All we can do is show up and end the man’s political career.

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        It’s all very Dunning-Kruger. A huge part of the crazy conservative personality seems to be thinking YOU are the smart one in a sea of sheep, and that everything is a conspiracy.

        So when Trump is getting convicted, looking like an idiot, and has most of the civilized world against him? SO much evidence of the conspiracy and the system trying to save itself from the great disruptor! It’s like reality itself is bending over backwards to make the chosen one look like an irredeemable pile of shit!

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        Mark Robinson in NC just messed up because he was saying the quiet part out loud, or at least on porn message boards. Oh, and he was black.

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          As an NC resident I was incredulous at the turnaround that happened after that all came out. I thought for sure he was going to end up being a shoo-in for victory. I can’t walk ten feet without seeing Trump shit everywhere, and I live in the middle of a city. These folks should have loved Robinson even more than they love supply-side Jesus.

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      Let’s also not forget that he’s on pre-trial release in two criminal cases, and it’s not just the pre-sentencing release he’s on for cheating in the 2016 election.

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    As much as I’d like to make fun of the 'muricans, I’m well aware Brazil would totally do the same fucking thing with jair bolsonaro. Thankfully the fucker is ineligible for another 7 or so years, but his sons are still causing trouble.

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    Don’t forget the fake communists bragging that they won’t support genocide and that’s why they’re not voting.

    Hey, socialism angels: do you drive a car? Do you emit carbon dioxide that is projected to cause 1 billion deaths, mainly in poorer countries, by 2050? If so, why do you support genocide? You refuse to support genocide one day every 4 years, but actively participate the other 1460?

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      You_IRL

      Did you know that with more representative voting systems, people would be free to vote for whomsoever they wish, secure in the knowledge their vote would still be casted against those they don’t want in office?

      I invite you to my asklemmy post to discuss your recent commitment to replacing First Past The Post voting in your state so people can vote freely.

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        Calling out the objectively stupid people who are refusing to vote Harris over Gaza does not make someone inherently against better voting systems. I’m not even sure why you’re bringing that up as if it’s relevant; nobody was talking about it and most people here are for it anyway.

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      Yesterday’s John Oliver introduced me to the concept of vote swapping and I am so pissed this wasn’t pushed for third party/protest voters. Basically, if you live in a swing state and absolutely insist on not voting for the Dems, find someone in a blue state who planned on voting for Harris and let them do a protest vote on your behalf, while you vote for Harris on their behalf. Why didn’t I hear about this earlier?! (I live in Germany tho, so maybe it is a thing?)

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        I did this back in 2000. I wanted to vote for Nader but lived in a swing state, so they connected me with someone in a solidly blue state and we swapped votes. And I’m surprised as you that we didn’t do it this time around.

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        Yes we should. Drag is improving the system by not driving a car and campaigning for Harris. You seem to think you can improve the system by ignoring politics and continuing to drive your car.

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        Not voting for the lesser evil, thereby allowing the much greater evil to get into power, is not working to improve the system, medieval peasant.

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            Whoever wins or loses today. I’ll still be investing in Israeli property developments in Gaza and the west bank. You’d be a fool not to. It’s a guaranteed investment. The Palestinians lost and they’re never getting that land back.

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              first time in my life i have been praying that anyone supporting or benefiting from this dies of from a long painful cancer and then in afterlife tormented brutally in hell for eternity. i even went to a church last month for the extra push.

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                People have been protesting for a year, but not only have the democrats vilified these protests and not paid them any mind, but things have only gotten worse in Palestine. For over 40+ Israel has been stealing land from the Palestinians . In the last year, there’s death marches and mass starvation happening in Gaza, all while the democrats are doing everything in their power to provide cover for the genocide and lie to the people and tell them that they’re tirelessly working towards a cease fire. No matter how much you scream, the Dems aren’t caring, and with every day that passes even more people are horribly killed and maimed. It makes perfect sense to profit off this genocide. It’s not going anywhere. I as a Westerner might as well accept what we’re doing and build a house on the burial grounds of the dead. Just like what we did to the native population of the Americas.