EDIT: I’m interested in how a free Palestine would play out in terms of what that would mean for women, gays, children, people of non-muslim religions, in terms of personal freedoms, etc. For the average citizen/denizen what would that look like?

  • schnurrito@discuss.tchncs.de
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    Obviously similar to neighboring countries like Egypt, Lebanon, Syria, Jordan.

    Hint: It is obvious you are trying to propagandize in favor of Israel. No, no possible answer to your question justifies anything Israel has been doing.

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      13 hours ago

      I think its fair to ask an objective “what would a free Palestine look like”

      I’m interested in what life would be like for folks there.

      Young people seem so different when they don’t have a physical or emotional gun to their back, I actually entertain the idea that young Palestinians (with aid and world collaboration) could work towards—I dunno, like Pakistan or something. I don’t know a lot about all the geopolitics but Pakistan is seperate from India, thats an achievement that seems similar

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        It’s not a success. Two-state solution is a failure. Be it India-Pakistan, East-West Germany, North-South Korea or Sudan-South Sudan.

        As someone from India, the two-state solution for India-Pakistan was a massive disaster. One of the worst man-made catastrophe. Rape, murder and violence between different ethnic groups, it was horrible. People were forcibly displaced to the other side of the country, leaving behind their ancestral village and belongings. This destroyed their culture and their language, stripped their identity.

        These states were divided to satisfy the egoes of the two major political dynasts, Nehru and Jinnah, and as typical of pretend-socialist liberals, they were supported by the Hindu Mahasabha and the All India Muslim league.

        Pakistan forced the use of Urdu, an Indian language, because their native languages had Devanagari-resembling script, and for that strong Muslim identity they went for a language with a Farsi script… except that the language was Khadi Boli (a language from UP) with borrowed Farsi words.

        Well, what about India? They went ballistic sub-nationalist. State majoritarians forced language on vulnerable groups, including mine (obligatory middle-finger to the Basel Mission and Kannada chauvinists).

        Later, Pakistan’s ethnic cleansing and rape of Bengalis, especially Hindus in East Pakistan (East Bengal) backfired, and the country broke into three. Cut to 2024, the people of Kashmir suffer even to this day.

        If only the Indian communists from the HSRA had not been betrayed by the INC, a greater India with none of the communal B.S. would have existed. There would have been no Hindutva or Deobandi extremists jump around and squirming like cockroaches. And we have two countries armed to the brim with nuclear weapons.

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        Better than the blockade in Gaza and the apartheid system in the West Bank they’ve been living under for the last decades.

        I don’t think it would be a model in terms of human rights, doesn’t make Israel’s actions any better.