… hope this war ends soon.
Question: why are 4 / 5 members of the “moscow times” not even Russian (almost all from the US or England), and why does the managing editor’s twitter full of pro-Israel stuff like this?
The source also for this is amnesty international, which is part of the western regime-change complex.
No challenge to your other points, but how is that pro-Israel? Genuine question, are the people pictured state officials or something? To me it looks like a point about what people living in that (illegitimate and genocidal) state feel about Ukraine…
So Putin is going to invade Amnesty International now? They’re not even a NATO member. And if you don’t support changing regimes that violate human rights and commit crimes against humanity, what are you?
There is no worse violator and murderer of millions of innocent people than the US empire.
Amnesty international has notably supported every single one of the US’s wars.
Maybe you’re right, but in gross numbers, probably not. Here today, it doesn’t justify Putin’s war on his neighbors. Whatever his insecurities are, he’s learning the hard way to stay in his lane.
Whataboutism ✔️
Can we set up a daily whataboutism counter for Lemmy?
Uh-huh, thanks. Whataboutism remains a fallacious and frivolous tactic for derailing. There is no point made by whatabouting that couldn’t also be made the same without intentionally using it for a derail. So, nice try, but no.
What’s your next article?
You are missing the point. Do you really think that a Western empire and its (rarely reliable) media would sincerely care about and honestly report other states committing atrocities when there are already cops beating or killing thousands of civilians, thousands of ill prisoners dying from neglect, unconsensual destructions of native lands happening, thousands of nuclear weapons awaiting use, and other ignored problems running rampant, all right here on their own doorstep yearly? Do you think that that’s all just an unfortunate coincidence?
No, it isn’t.
That link’s blanket dismissal of the claim of whataboutism is short-sighted and bad, but this isn’t even a case of whataboutism. @Julianus literally said the US engaging in regime change is good in response to a challenge to the source of the article. Responding with atrocities committed by the US is as relevant as it gets.
Whataboutism is a form of the tu quoque fallacy where a double standard is used to dismiss criticisms of one’s own behavior in order to focus instead on the actions of another.
What about the pet animals in Ukraine? Where are the emergency airlifts to pick them up??
The evil Ukrainian regime of Ultra-Nazis used starving people as human shields for their bioweapons factory?
Those poor Russians who had to target it, knowing that they’d also be taking innocent lives… so horrible. Putin’s awesome veteran medical coverage will provide the necessary therapy, I think.
Can’t really treat all those poor Russian
cannon fodderconscripts for acute cases of death. Sitting in out-of-fuel convoys is bad for your health. Luckily for them, many are opting to surrender. Also, threats of conscripting Russian anti-war protesters doesn’t sound like a good idea, either. Seems more like a free emigration to Ukraine program.Can’t really treat all those poor Russian cannon fodder conscripts for acute cases of death.
What death? Only a few have died. The glorious Russian Army is too powerful for anyone to assault them. Like their forebears, they are gigantic superhuman soldiers, sent out on a mission to bitсhslap Nazis. Like Zelensky, the biggest Nazi of them all.
They are so awesome, that they though “Why waste the fuel and further harm climate?” and just started pushing their tanks onwards. Could you push a 60 ton tank? But they do it as if it were nothing!
I have great respect for the Russian people. I hope one day they’ll throw the yoke of authoritarianism off, again.
The true triumph is throwing off the yoke of western imperialism and capitalism.
I agree, but it’s not triumph if you simply replace it with local imperialism and capitalism. A post-scarcity future is possible. But we have to imagine what lies beyond capitalism. What might have the Bosheviks accomplished with good computers and no Stalin?l
if you simply replace it with local imperialism and capitalism.
True. However, that simply isn’t the case here. We can know, with certainty, that Putin is a secret communist trying to rebuild the glory that is the USSR. We can know this because we want it to be true, and wanting it to be true makes it true (when it’s a good thing).
Soviet scientists like Lysenko proved this in the 20th century.
I like you. You’re funny.
