• abbenm
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    3 years ago

    Whataboutism ✔️

    Can we set up a daily whataboutism counter for Lemmy?

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        3 years ago

        Uh-huh, thanks. Whataboutism remains a fallacious and frivolous tactic for derailing. There is no point made by whatabouting that couldn’t also be made the same without intentionally using it for a derail. So, nice try, but no.

        What’s your next article?

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          You are missing the point. Do you really think that a Western empire and its (rarely reliable) media would sincerely care about and honestly report other states committing atrocities when there are already cops beating or killing thousands of civilians, thousands of ill prisoners dying from neglect, unconsensual destructions of native lands happening, thousands of nuclear weapons awaiting use, and other ignored problems running rampant, all right here on their own doorstep yearly? Do you think that that’s all just an unfortunate coincidence?

          No, it isn’t.

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          That link’s blanket dismissal of the claim of whataboutism is short-sighted and bad, but this isn’t even a case of whataboutism. @Julianus literally said the US engaging in regime change is good in response to a challenge to the source of the article. Responding with atrocities committed by the US is as relevant as it gets.