• HMH
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      One thing to watch out for is that (ICU) Hospitalizations and deaths even more so lag behind the numbers for cases. So looking at these numbers right now is probably still inconclusive.

      But I very much like that you posted these graphs, that’s something you can properly discuss as opposed to all those comments regarding COVID-19 that just voice feelings without backing anything up.

      Edit: Data from the UK look pretty similar: https://coronavirus.data.gov.uk/details/healthcare The time lag between cases and hospitalizations seems to be a week and comparing the current hospitalizations to cases of a week a go and to the previous waves supports your claim.

  • @AgreeableLandscapeM
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    The right: Covid is just like the flu! Stop worrying about it!

    Also the right: The flu kills more people than covid (it doesn’t BTW)!

    • HMH
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      How does Omicron compare to the flu, are there any usable numbers yet?

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          I don’t doubt that, do you have any numbers though, perhaps even for Omicron? I’d absolutely love for Omicron or a following variant to be as mild or milder than the flu because I am really getting tired of all of this.

          • @nutomicA
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            Its pretty obvious that Covid is getting less dangerous. Just have a look at the daily number of deaths in Spain (source). Meanwhile number of infections per day is reaching record highs, meaning each infection is less and less dangerous.

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              • @nutomicA
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                Covid vaccination started in Spain on 27th December 2021, just in between the second and third wave you can see in the graph. As you can see, the second wave was already much less deadly than the first, and that was without lockdown. And so far only 15% of the population were ever infected with Covid. So its not clear to me that these two factors had a major influence.

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      • @AgreeableLandscapeM
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        Not really. People say it’s like the flu but AKAIK that’s more gut feeling than real data.

    • @nutomicA
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      In 2022 Covid is just like a flu. Does that make me right?

      • @gun
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        It makes you right, in the sense that right means correct

      • @sheesh
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        It seems to be “just a flu” if you are vaccinated.

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            • @nutomicA
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              Yes thats what hospitals are for, to treat people when they get sick. Please give statistics for number of people eith permanent lung damage or similar.

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                  The pandemic started two years ago. If there are no statistics about long term effects by now, they cant be that significant. Its more likely that the media makes dramatic stories based on few extreme cases.

    • @k_o_t
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      doesn’t worldwide just mean news from countries all over the world (including the us), doesn’t necessarily have to be anything specific that applies to all countries worldwide, no?

      • @nutomicA
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        Okay but then the title is completely misleading, because it says “worldwide”. So you could say that the title is misinformation.

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          yeah, title is not appropriate, if not misleading, it’s definitely incomplete

          • @nutomicA
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            @uthredii@lemmy.ml could you please change the post title to remove “worldwide”, and mention that its about the United States?

            @AgreeableLandscape@lemmy.ml Maybe the community could have a rule that the title must accurately reflect the content of the article?

            • @uthrediiOP
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              I would prefer not to change the title because:

              1. It does include comments from WHO that are not specific to the US:

                The World Health Organization on Thursday pushed back against the consistent chatter that the ultra-transmissible omicron coronavirus is “mild,” noting that the variant is causing a “tsunami of cases” that is “overwhelming health systems around the world.”

              2. The post title is the same as the article title.

              • @nutomicA
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                It doesnt mention any specific country besides the US where health systems are currently overwhelmed (and i havent heard about that anywhere else). And i dont think we should keep the original title if it is clearly misleading like in this case.

                • @uthrediiOP
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                  I’m sorry but I still disagree.

                  The article is quoting the world health organisation which is a global organisation. WHO is looking at data from the whole world, not just the US.

            • @AgreeableLandscapeM
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              I’ll make a post soon asking for feedback on how “world news” should be defined, extending that old thread we had on that.

      • @sheesh
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        It also says “W[orld]H[ealth]O[rganisation] warns” - seems OK imo.