Joplin
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Joplin, the open source note-taking application
Salamander
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Thanks. I have been using Obsidian, and for some strange reason I was under the impression that it was open source. I just looked into it and it turns out that it is not… I am going to look into Joplin!

@TheWoebegoneWolf
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They have talked about why they won’t go open source in the past, mostly on the Discord but I think in the forums as well

Salamander
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I was able to find one discussion in the forum here: https://forum.obsidian.md/t/open-sourcing-of-obsidian/1515

@peppermint
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If you want to compare, there’s plugin https://github.com/joplin/plugins, I think it’s the link graph ui one, that allows you to see the knowledge network, to limited extent.

Salamander
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315d

Thank you!

poVoq
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515d

I would rather suggest https://www.qownnotes.org/ with works great with Nextcloud and stores the notes as plain text.

@mitionet@midwest.social
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This looks really cool and similar to Joplin. Having issues getting LaTeX to work.

Lionel C-R
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215d

This one seems to be lacking a mobile client, deal breaker for me.

poVoq
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As it stores the notes in plain text (with markdown) any mobile text viewer will do.

Lionel C-R
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115d

Yes, but then you need another application to handle the synchronisation, I like that Joplin works with webdav and nextcloud. That being said I do admit it would have been better if it stored its content in plain text.

poVoq
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qownnotes also works with Webdav and Nextcloud.

Lionel C-R
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I tried QOwnNotes out but I’m quite disapointed (in comparison to Joplin):

  • I find the interface cluttered, even though I can choose the elements to show
  • The companion extension for firefox lacks functionality, I did not see a way to set tags while saving the page
  • Adding multiple tags in the application is cumbersome as it requires to click a button for each one
  • The way the nextcloud connexion works is unclear, it says I’m connected but I still need a sync client to synchronize my notes. Indeed, after having created a note I did not see anything pop up on my nextcloud.
  • I already said it but there’s no android app, even though I could just use a text editor coupled with my nextcloud app for synchronization, I would miss out on some functionalities, as searching by tags for example

It’s just not compatible with my desired workflow.

@peppermint
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515d

Has latex, HTML, code and mermaid-js (diagrams) support, this is the most convenient note taking app and I’ve been using it for years.

@DPUGT2
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515d

Does it muck up the html code the way it does md? Last I checked, it stuffed a bunch of metadata into the md which meant it was the only editor that could make use of it… so if you wanted to use the NC interface to edit a note on a machine that you didn’t or couldn’t install Joplin, it screwed things up.

@peppermint
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I don’t fully understand the context of your question. If you use encryption you can only edit files using the app, but it is supported on a variety of platforms including android, Linux and freebsd. In practice - anything where you can use electrons builder (npm run dist). There’s also CLI app.

@DPUGT2
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They’re “markdown” files. You can go into the Nextcloud web app interface, and open them or any other text file.

And, you’d even be able to modify those files there… except that Joplin doesn’t do true markdown at all. It spams it up with some metadata which it hides within its own interface. Sometimes I want to be able to look at or add to notes when I’m not at a computer that I own, it’d be able to use NC’s web app for that.

Just wondering if Joplin still screws this up, or if they somehow went in and fixed it.

@peppermint
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Its not a bug, its a feature. Use the app, it 1) allows you to encrypt those files 2) works on a variety of devices 3) can export PDF/HTML/markdown for you. But if you want to edit the files without the app, you are better off just having a bunch of markdown files in a nextcloud folder, without Joplin.

@DPUGT2
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Use the app, it 1) allows you to encrypt those files

The NC web app doesn’t interfere with encryption. Furthermore, Joplin then locks me into using it forever, my notes aren’t easily viewed with anything else. If I clean them up to be usable with something else in the future, then I’ve messed them up so I can never use Joplin again.

This isn’t a feature. It’s a lock-in.

you are better off just having a bunch of markdown files in a nextcloud folder, without Joplin.

I probably am better off, because I need to steer clear of software producers who attempt to lock me into their product, and who spam up standard file formats with proprietary crud to make those unusable with other software.

But I am not better off without a notes application at all, because the NC interface is very basic and inconvenient for organizing a large number of notes. I can’t use it on a phone, for instance. I can’t juggle between notes-topics quickly. I wish there was a good notes app, that didn’t try to lock me into their title, or their cloud, or whatever. Joplin’s just not it. And it could have been, it was so close.

@peppermint
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I would agree with you, except it is possible to export each Joplin note individually as an archive and in bulk, and I simply cannot imagine how it is possible to have markdown + media support without a “lock-in”.

@jazzfes
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One of the things that just work really well for me. The webclipper is quite decent too.

@rcbrk
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415d

Can I run my own Joplin-cloud server instead of paying/trusting them?

@peppermint
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You can host nextcloud or any other webdav backend, but for collaboration I don’t think the joplin server is quite ready yet, I tried to deploy it a month ago.

You can sync via Dropbox or a few others. Nextcloud is one of them.

@pinknoise
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It always took ages to start on my phone, which really sucks for a note taking app. Now I use the nextcloud notes app, which also takes a bit to start, but not nearly as long.

Lionel C-R
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315d

I used to have that issue, not anymore

@mayetili@lemmygrad.ml
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215d

Standard Notes is another great app if you don’t need all the features Joplin provides.

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