I’ve had this debate before and was unable to come to a conclusion. It seems to me that any criticism, no matter how valid, could be characterized as harassment.
What do you guys think?
Is there a heuristic for determining which one a statement is?
Does everything just exist on a continuum between the two?
Is this harassment?

  • ThannOP
    2·
    3 years ago

    Yeah, exactly! As an engineer, all I do all day is dispense and receive criticism, and I like it!

    But unfortunately it’s easy to offend people, even when its not your intention =/

    It would be nice to have a heuristic, so when I get banned for harassment I can feel justified ^>^

    • stopit
      2·
      3 years ago

      But you like constructive criticism…right? Criticism without input is useless…is how I think anyhow.

      • ThannOP
        2·
        3 years ago

        Yup, not all criticism is equal.

        however, a contestant judge might disqualify you without saying why, and doesn’t owe you an explanation. I wouldn’t say that’s useless criticism, but I wouldn’t say it’s harassment, despite the lack of explanation.

        • stopit
          2·
          3 years ago

          But, this would imply you willingly entered a contest and understand that the judges will judge. Yes I agree it isn’t harassment or criticism, it’s a game you volunteered to participate in.

          I think I am thinking of my own expectations of criticism (perhaps self-centered?) and through this back and forth am realizing there are many different types of criticism that I have never thought of before now and I am not sure that I have the intelligence to opine too much. But…you did get me thinking…

          • ThannOP
            1·
            3 years ago

            you willingly entered a contest

            Yeah, I agree.
            Is saying something stupid on twitter a similar volunteering for criticism though?

            • stopit
              1·
              3 years ago

              Don’t get upset with me…I don’t use twitter (or fb, instagram etc) anymore…but…I think like here…if you’re posting something for the public to read, you should understand some people are going to find your opinions stupid. Should people say “I think you’re post is stupid”, I don’t think they should. Honestly, I think saying that is stupid…there are nicer ways to express one’s opinions…but back to my point: If you’re willing to post on a public forum, you should understand you may get negative feedback…even intentionally rude feedback. You have to move on.

              BTW…a few comments back I think you mentioned something…do you write software? If so, can I ask you a question privately? I have no intentions of trying to get a job…It’s just that I am trying to self learn programming as a mentally challenging hobby (akin to one working on crosswords or something)…and have general questions…not reading my code or anything like that, more general learning advice. i can explain more if you’re open to it.

              • ThannOP
                1·
                3 years ago

                Don’t worry about offending me, I’ll let you know if you cross a line ^.^

                I think that you have a very reasonable perspective to online discourse.

                Feel free to DM me questions. I also just created a sub for this type of stuff =]
                https://lemmy.ml/c/learn_programming