My experience with Lemmy feels like my experience with Linux. I’m a nerd at heart and have played with a thousand variants of Linux over the decades. But as much as Linux is sold as the next Windows/MacOS, it never gets to that level. Trying to get people to understand the quirks of Linux (and why they are “better”) has been an act in futility. Linux just isn’t user-friendly, no matter the variant.
I see so many posts of people trying to understand what Lemmy is, what an instance is, why usernames are not unique (unless you include the server name - like email), etc. I just see it all as a huge hurdle to overcoming Reddit.
I’d be thrilled to be wrong.
What you mean by user friendly? I am noob in Linux and Fedora , Ubuntu, Zorin OS , Linux Mint all of them were really easy to use and very user friendly.
my sister didn’t even know what a file browser was until highschool. “normal” people are extremely computer-illiterate. they need everything spoonfed or it won’t happen at all. there’s a reason windows updates happen automatically, most people won’t close their chrome tabs if left to their own devices, let alone turn off the PC, or god forbid doing updates manually. then factor in troubleshooting if the niche software you need for class or gaming doesn’t work right away and Linux becomes impossible for most people. it’s easy for those of us who are passionate about this tech to forget how difficult and unintuitive even the simplest things can be, but for people who get no joy from looking at a computer screen, every second they have to be sitting there is abrasive and draining.
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I hope that didn’t come across as talking down on normal people, I’d totally be the same way if tech wasn’t my main hobby/passion, and there’s plenty that normies can do that I miss out on cause it’s not my focusbut we are still talking about signing up for a service using a web site, somthing that virtually everyone is familiar with.
i think the biggest onboarding issue is home instance selection. perhaps a randomized preselect would help, but has issues of its own that would have to minimized.
additionally, easy to use account migration between instances would possibly make home instance selection less harrowing.
I love Linux, been using it daily for well over a decade but simple stuff people take for granted like gaming, drivers, wi-fi, touchpads, secureboot, Adobe, Office, printing and device syncing alongside the ever ongoing dependency hell can be an issue for some.
I don’t think I’ve met anyone else in meatspace who uses Linux as a desktop or laptop. Installing a novel OS isn’t something people tend to do and comes with risks.
The worry is that Lemmy is then not so much a replacemt for Reddit and more of replacement for r/Linux and related subs.
Whilst it’s nice to go online and tell people how amazing and easy I’m finding it is running Gentoo on old hardware with public binhosts I would also like access to a majority of communities who won’t know what that means.
Well yeah you are right I have two computers one with windows for gaming and the other one for Linux. I daily drive Linux and I have never met no one that uses Linux. Just a developer.
I really like how Linux is right now , slowly progressing to become better for the users.
I think Linux is great and doing just fine, I suppose my concern for Lemmy is that whilst I’m happy for my OS to be pretty much a community of techies I’d prefer my social media feed to be a little more varied.
When there’s far more posts about what window manager you use as opposed to pictures of cute cats there’s an imbalance in the force. I suspect I’ve further upset this balance by arriving on Lemmy and talking about Gentoo :)
I really see Linux more user friendly than windows, windows is a mess, their settings are like noodles, Linux is as clear and simple as a smartphone, I installed Linux on my wife’s and children’s laptop, and they never complained or asked how to use it. I really don’t understand what people mean by Linux isn’t user friendly.
Yeah, as it is now, I wont be too quick to recommend it to all my friends. Even reddit wasn’t intuitive to most of my irl friends.
But it will improve, I’m sure, community discovery and subbing will become easier. And as long as the number of users, and activity, continues to steadily go up, lemmy will stick around.
As each type of community reaches critical mass, it will gain a home on lemmy.
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yeah I don’t think I could get even my techiest friends to use Lemmy. but I like it, so that’s a start at least
Y’all people make lemmy seem like something that’s super crazy and complicated when it’s simple AF smh
Yes just think it is like email , you can email with someone with in another server. Very simple
It took me 10 years to feel comfortable with the Linux command line, from my first brush with it until now.
I first created an account here on Lemmy 3 years ago and promptly forgot about it until a few days ago.
I did not have anywhere near the time-sink needed to adjust to Lemmy compared to Linux.
It doesn’t has to be “the new reddit”, IMO if it’s like linux I’ll be pleased. I don’t need 4K users daily posting niche memes of wich I can see like the top 20 as most. Also I don’t personally want a place full of stupid comments and agressions, or I’ll be in 4chan, not lemmy.
Lemmy has the potential to be a new platform by iteslf, an alternative for people that want things different, that want more engagement and thoughtful communities that last long and does not need to strangle the last cent out of the users pockets. And for people that does not want a social media platform, but a forum like exprecience.
Also, look at the current wave on big tech platforms, twitter has gone to garbage, Facebook, Instagram, TikTok, Reddit… I preffer not to depend on this kind of services, I just want to engage with real people in a more mature way, and Lemmy allows me to have the best of all parts without the bad.
That’s me I guess.
I’m confused as someone who solely uses Linux. I’m a dumb bimbo. You just need to yay in the console sometimes to have the system be up to date. Which is very yay. UwU
You seem to imply that Linux is doing bad, too. It is not. Linux is thriving with a huge community of people who have mutual appreciation for what Linux does better and how it does this. I feel like Lemmy will be the same thing. It won’t be for everyone, but that is not necessarily a bad thing. Linux will not be the next Windows or MacOS but it doesn’t have to be and it’s not a bad thing that it won’t.
Imo, a large community of people who share a passion for a platform like Lemmy sounds awesome! I love using Linux and even though I won’t recommend it to my mom, friends with whom I have nice and technical conversations have joined me on the Linux journey and it’s awesome to discuss various opinions and share the passion for it. It doesn’t take a huge community. It just takes a community of people that care and are passionate and enthusiastic about it.
Also, millions of people are using Mastodon. I would call that far from bad.
