I think XMPP.

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      3 years ago

      Corrected the sentence. I last used XMPP with Conversations on mobile and Movim on the web about 3 to 4 years ago. Many of my contact had hard time enabling e2ee. I had to visit them to walk them thru the trust process. Other wise, the would just see scrambled text.

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        3 years ago

        I use Monocles Chat, a fork of blabber.im, which is a fork of Conversations.

        OMEMO encryption works by default, and (for me) was a little bit more seamless than setting it up for Element.

        Element has a slightly awkward “verification” process, and also the backing up of encryption keys, and verifying other devices, just tends to confuse new users (imo).

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          3 years ago

          Element sees this as levels of trust.

          1. Not encrypted
          2. Encrypted but untrusted
          3. Encrypted and trusted
          4. Encrypted and trusted but conversation has an untrusted device.

          Verification process is for people you interact with outside of Matrix like IRL or phone, etc.