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    • soronixa
      3·
      3 years ago

      wow, I didn’t know. searched a bit and yeah, you’re right. their excuse is “it doesn’t add trust, because users have no way of verifying what code runs on our servers”. bullshit.

      but does it matter for email services backed to be foss in practice? the main downside I can see is it makes self hosting impossible, but other than that does it matter?

        • soronixa
          1·
          3 years ago

          ok, so my technical knowledge is limited, so correct if I’m wrong. I know that the content of emails is end to end encrypted (regardless of what runs on their backends), but emails have a header that can not be encrypted. so from what I understand, in practice it doesn’t matter that their backend is proprietary? because the header is exposed anyway and they can’t do anything about it? basically it’s the same problem with matrix, metadata can’t stay private, right?

          still sucks that they’re not FOSS.

          For example, one can be a Libre software advocate and wanting to use Tox and Jami and Briar only but if your colleagues, other parties/partners (you work with), family, friends etc. are not able or not willing to use that software then it is not going to work out.

          I know, I still have to keep using whatsapp because of my college T_T

      • freely
        3·
        3 years ago

        I’ve never seen great recommendations on this after looking around. Personally I plan on self-hosting, even if it’s not recommended…

        • soronixa
          5·
          3 years ago

          I’ve seen Tutonota and Disroot being recommended.

          • freely
            3·
            3 years ago

            Never heard of Disroot. My Tutanota got deleted because I didn’t use it (previously went protonmail)

          • freely
            3·
            3 years ago

            The future plan is a VPS that my home server is connected to via Wireguard. Just trying to decide on a provider. Currently thinking ArticHost or BuyVM, but we’ll see…

              • freely
                3·
                3 years ago

                Hmm. It’s some sort of OS distro with a bunch of self-hoster stuff preconfigured? I’ve already been running Ubuntu server v20 LTS for a while now as my base. Mix of KVM & Docker stuff for my various needs.