@nutomic@lemmy.ml, a site administrator of lemmy.ml, banned @soferman@lemmy.ml from !worldnews@lemmy.ml. The reason they gave is:
because of your hostile behaviour there. This is something I should have done long ago. The main reason I didnt is that I didnt want to give the impression that you were targeted because of our political disagreements. But the fact is that you are causing too much trouble.
The ban announcement can be found here.
soferman created a post about the question if their ban is justified in !asklemmy@lemmy.ml. They deleted it after I asked them to, because deletion hides the post from front pages but it’s still accessible for review.
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He wouldn’t stop he/she was warned enought times
Okay, link the warnings then.
This is the comment linking to Nutomic’s warning and then explanation for the ban: https://lemmy.ml/post/68454/comment/58527
Other instances of what I would consider gaslighting and/or arguing in bad faith:
https://lemmy.ml/post/67737/comment/57096
https://lemmy.ml/post/67740/comment/57195
personally the only problem I have with the ban is its timing, if soferman was banned because of bad faith arguements I would be ok with it, but they were banned because of this comment which I think isn’t reason enough to ban someone. soferman had already become much less hostile.
Which I already linked. Did you click the links in the comment?
… or they could just be dumb, uneducated or polemic in those instances. I think you don’t know what gaslighting is. It’s when you tell someone that what you or they said, heard or saw isn’t what actually happened. If you didn’t see it, you should watch the original movie and/or a theatric play. I understood the nuances of gaslighting way better afterwards; Gaslight is an exceptional piece of psychoeducational art.
In this instance we can read what happened, soferman doesn’t deny having made these claims and the comments aren’t edited, though, so I don’t really see gaslighting. I just see a kid who doesn’t nuance their opinion. Don’t attribute to malice what could equally be explained with stupidity. And keep in mind that everyone is stupid at least at some point in their lives.
They were warned many times over what they were doing. I will make it clear what they have done in the past month today.
This sounds like a reasonable thing to do. Try to keep it as factual as possible and please don’t open the third thread about this drama.
No I am not making a third drama thread, I have all of sofermans comment and post history screenshotted and am making a long post on it today.
I hope you don’t open a new post for it, but post it as comment instead. Maybe just below your initial comment here. Or maybe in one of the other existing comment threads about this.
No I cannot do that. There are a bunch of threads now in soferman’s defense, berating the admin’s decision and the thoughts behind it, which a lot of people are clearly not aware of. People should be aware of both sides of the story, because this fellow acts in an oversmart manner.
I have met fellows like this one, so I am not worried about myself but for Lemmy, and so I will put myself on the frontlines.
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that’s not deescalating things and irrelevant to the discussion.
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No, not to me, but to Lemmy community. And as you can see, I am a very old adopter of Lemmy, and have been trying to bring a change in the privacy community for a year and a half.
This thread right here is NOT in soferman’s defense. It’s a discussion about the ban, which, in my opinion, was unjustified. I specifically created a separate comment with my own opionion so that other people could add their own. I only put facts in the opening post, without bringing my own opinion in. If you think it’s a good idea to create even more drama to drive people away from Lemmy, feel free.
There is nothing discussing soferman’s history yet. If you want to defend their blatant curveballs on the moderation, feel free to do so. I will do my thing, you do yours.