I seriously can not accept GG’s terms.

When you upload, submit, store, send or receive content to or through our Services, you give Google (and those we work with) a worldwide license to use, host, store, reproduce, modify, create derivative works (such as those resulting from translations, adaptations or other changes we make so that your content works better with our Services), communicate, publish, publicly perform, publicly display and distribute such content. The rights you grant in this license are for the limited purpose of operating, promoting, and improving our Services, and to develop new ones. This license continues even if you stop using our Services

And the damn thing continues:

…Our automated systems analyze your content (including emails)…

Extract from Google Suite Terms of Service

  • FreYurMaind
    3·
    5 years ago

    Has anyone here experience how to convince people, just i.e. family members to stop using Google services? I remember when I switched from Gmail to another service, everyone was just shocked. Like I plugged myself from the source of existence. I cannot imagine what people will say if I report to have left Facebook…

    • AgreeableLandscape
      2·
      5 years ago

      Has anyone here experience how to convince people

      Personally: Experience? Yes. Success? Not really. Most people will straight up tell you that they don’t care. The most common quotes I’ve heard are “I have nothing to hide”, “I like the convenience”, or “Losing privacy is inevitable anyway so why not embrace it?”

        • FreYurMaind
          3·
          5 years ago

          And actually, I think people don’t feel that they are the product using Google & Co. Sometimes, if it happens to have conversation on how is that I don’t have a Google account (I have a fake account indeed what I don’t use) I use Glenn Greenwald’s argument: What I want you to do when you get home is email me the passwords to all of your email accounts, not just the nice, respectable work one in your name, but all of them, because I want to be able to just troll through what it is you’re doing online, read what I want to read and publish whatever I find interesting. After all, if you’re not a bad person, if you’re doing nothing wrong, you should have nothing to hide."

        • DessalinesA
          2·
          5 years ago

          Glenn greenwald has a good one for this for those who say they don’t care about privacy / being spied on: he writes down his email, gives it to them, and asks them to send him all their passwords to all their social media, bank accounts, etc. Of course no one has ever taken him up on that. But people do that exact thing when using gmail, amazon echo, etc.