"I see no changes, wake up in the morning and I ask myself
Is life worth livin’? Should I blast myself?
I’m tired of bein’ poor and, even worse, I’m black
My stomach hurts so I’m lookin’ for a purse to snatch
Cops give a damn about a negro
Pull the trigger, kill a nigga, he’s a hero
Give the crack to the kids, who the hell cares?
One less hungry mouth on the welfare
First ship 'em dope and let 'em deal to brothers
Give 'em guns, step back, watch 'em kill each other
“It’s time to fight back, " that’s what Huey said
Two shots in the dark, now Huey’s dead”
again the black panthers were not outright communists… anything about capitalism, references to marx, soviet russia, Mao? anything like that? just the words bourgeoisie or proletariat even once?
The Black Panthers weren’t outright communists? have you even read Huey Newton, the person being specifically referenced in this line? He was an avowed Marxist, he crafted the theory of intercommunalism, he advocated for sending Panthers to fucking Vietnam to fight on behalf of the communists because he believed that the communist struggle was a world struggle.
Please do more reading about Black Liberation movements, and the Panthers in specific. They were, in fact, a third world solidarity and Black Power movement based on socialism and their theory came from avowed Marxist leaders.
Edit: Tupac, by the way, was the head of the New African Panthers, and if it bothers you so much that he never said the word “communism” in his music, you should read his poetry, which is powerfully radical. Or perhaps listen to his interviews about Black Liberation, the Panthers, his mom (who you seem to think he never took any lessons from) or any of his radical speeches.
No the organization was not, you can read alot of bobby seal and cleaver and you can tell they were very outspoken against capitalism and promoted socialism, but the main org was about black liberation. They did not walk around waving hammsick logos calling themselves maoists
You clearly need to educate yourself on the panthers. I suggest starting with Newton’s revolutionary suicide, and the book “black against empire”. The founders were explicitly Marxist-Leninists, read everything they could by Lenin, Marx, Stalin, Engels, supported Cuba, China (even sold mao’s red book to raise funds), visited China, etc.
they didn’t promote themselves as maoists especially not at first it was about black liberation, alot of people were surprised to learn including their own members they had such socialist views. The news declared them the black version of the KKK if you recall
Do less talking, and more reading, from people who founded or were in the party, like what I suggested to you above. What the news said about the panthers is almost entirely false.
When the leaders who direct the theory and organisation are all fucking marxists who talk about Black nationalism and socialism, that is fucking communism, whether they use fucking hammer and sickles or not. What the fuck. Do you think communism is an aesthetic???
The Panthers specifically spoke in their theory about the importance of radicalising the lumpenproletariat, upon whom they built the base of their movement, with the belief that the most oppressed, the lumpen, are the most ready to radicalise (which was backed by their readings of Fanon)
anti-capitalism and communism are not inherently the same, but an organisation founded on third world solidarity and specifically Marxist theory obviously fucking is. get a clue, you’re so fucking obtuse
do you define communists by their shared, arcane-to-the-average-person vernacular or the shit they actually say lol. i also am not getting the shade towards the black panthers. even if many members saw it more as a black liberation movement than an explicitly communist one, the leadership were all communists! Huey was a communist!
genuinely don’t understand your point, but whatever. I ain’t telling shit to Cointelpro and one of the major reasons they targeted the panthers so heavily was for their revolutionary, explicitly communist platform, coupled with their black liberation ideology. idgi
no they desperately exaggerated their connections to communism to justify attacking them, as well as everyother black, feminist, gay etc rights group in the world
no? how about the hours and hours of anti-Semitic conspiracy theories about the freemasons and illuminati that likely inspired his band mate to name himself after mussolini?
so a band member named mussolini, and a video showing he doesn’t even know how to pronounce stalins name isn’t proof… but saying something vague about rent is? just say you think hes a zombie vampire and quit this bullshit
he bought a book…and even forgot his name… like thats another straw, just grasping for straws… try pretending your j.edgar hoover and trying to have 2pac arrested for being a communist show me some proof even Hoover would accept
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how about just a single communist lyric in his entire career, just one time ever… in his whole life… once
uh
again the black panthers were not outright communists… anything about capitalism, references to marx, soviet russia, Mao? anything like that? just the words bourgeoisie or proletariat even once?
The Black Panthers weren’t outright communists? have you even read Huey Newton, the person being specifically referenced in this line? He was an avowed Marxist, he crafted the theory of intercommunalism, he advocated for sending Panthers to fucking Vietnam to fight on behalf of the communists because he believed that the communist struggle was a world struggle.
Please do more reading about Black Liberation movements, and the Panthers in specific. They were, in fact, a third world solidarity and Black Power movement based on socialism and their theory came from avowed Marxist leaders.
Edit: Tupac, by the way, was the head of the New African Panthers, and if it bothers you so much that he never said the word “communism” in his music, you should read his poetry, which is powerfully radical. Or perhaps listen to his interviews about Black Liberation, the Panthers, his mom (who you seem to think he never took any lessons from) or any of his radical speeches.
No the organization was not, you can read alot of bobby seal and cleaver and you can tell they were very outspoken against capitalism and promoted socialism, but the main org was about black liberation. They did not walk around waving hammsick logos calling themselves maoists
You clearly need to educate yourself on the panthers. I suggest starting with Newton’s revolutionary suicide, and the book “black against empire”. The founders were explicitly Marxist-Leninists, read everything they could by Lenin, Marx, Stalin, Engels, supported Cuba, China (even sold mao’s red book to raise funds), visited China, etc.
they didn’t promote themselves as maoists especially not at first it was about black liberation, alot of people were surprised to learn including their own members they had such socialist views. The news declared them the black version of the KKK if you recall
Do less talking, and more reading, from people who founded or were in the party, like what I suggested to you above. What the news said about the panthers is almost entirely false.
When the leaders who direct the theory and organisation are all fucking marxists who talk about Black nationalism and socialism, that is fucking communism, whether they use fucking hammer and sickles or not. What the fuck. Do you think communism is an aesthetic???
The Panthers specifically spoke in their theory about the importance of radicalising the lumpenproletariat, upon whom they built the base of their movement, with the belief that the most oppressed, the lumpen, are the most ready to radicalise (which was backed by their readings of Fanon)
Martin Luther king also spoke against capitalism? would you also call him a communist?.. there were some billboards in alabama that said that
anti-capitalism and communism are not inherently the same, but an organisation founded on third world solidarity and specifically Marxist theory obviously fucking is. get a clue, you’re so fucking obtuse
do you define communists by their shared, arcane-to-the-average-person vernacular or the shit they actually say lol. i also am not getting the shade towards the black panthers. even if many members saw it more as a black liberation movement than an explicitly communist one, the leadership were all communists! Huey was a communist!
you might say this because you see communism as good thing, now say this to Cointelpro
genuinely don’t understand your point, but whatever. I ain’t telling shit to Cointelpro and one of the major reasons they targeted the panthers so heavily was for their revolutionary, explicitly communist platform, coupled with their black liberation ideology. idgi
no they desperately exaggerated their connections to communism to justify attacking them, as well as everyother black, feminist, gay etc rights group in the world
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again tenuous at best, I could easily connect to the bible, or buddhism, I’m sure Osama is no fan of prostitution either
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no? how about the hours and hours of anti-Semitic conspiracy theories about the freemasons and illuminati that likely inspired his band mate to name himself after mussolini?
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so a band member named mussolini, and a video showing he doesn’t even know how to pronounce stalins name isn’t proof… but saying something vague about rent is? just say you think hes a zombie vampire and quit this bullshit
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he bought a book…and even forgot his name… like thats another straw, just grasping for straws… try pretending your j.edgar hoover and trying to have 2pac arrested for being a communist show me some proof even Hoover would accept
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