• krolden
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    Dont take abilify if you are allergic to constant surveillance, as this may cause you to kill yourself.

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              • @sexy_peach@feddit.de
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                I didn’t say it was evidence. I don’t need to give evidence for a claim this mainstream. Look it up yourselves.

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                  • Helix 🧬
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                    Argumentum ad populum

                    Yeah, that’s also what I thought. Although on the other hand, the burden of proof lies on the person who made the original claim (“Psychiatric drugs are straight up placebos that cause harms.”), which in this case is you.

                    You provided some sources so there’s an actual basis to be discussed, unlike the parent comment which just says “look it up”.

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              • Helix 🧬
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                Thank you a lot for those links. Your post has been very interesting and informative, I’ll probably take quite some time to review all of it.

                Some of the articles you linked are either peer reviewed by few people or have few citations. On the other hand, especially #4 as a review article of several studies was very interesting. It also shows that there’s truth in your statement “Studies from drug companies have publication bias”, which I myself always suspected.

                Your links “only” show some of the medication isn’t effective or may cause long term harm, not all of them. The claim that “Psychiatric drugs are straight up placebos that cause harm[]” isn’t completely supported by your links. If you’d tone it down to “many psychiatric drugs are equally effective as placebos and most of them cause harm” I would be more inclined to support that claim.

                One example: Antipsychotics like Haloperidol are often used only for a very short time to keep patients from harming themselves or others and to stop the synapses from firing, so to speak. There’s some risk-reward tradeoff to be analysed there. If you say that all psychiatric drugs are ineffective, you also say that Haloperidol isn’t effective and giving people placebos would be the proper response in an acute psychosis, which is probably something most clinical doctors in psychiatry wouldn’t agree with.

                Re #7: Is ADHD really a mental disorder? Isn’t it classified as developmental disorder or developmental disability? The site’s name is a bit unfortunately chosen, but apart from that their content seems to be at least worth a look.

                I wish there was a simple table or list of all tested (types of) medication with their reported efficacy and a pro/contra list of using them, like the review article about antidepressants, but easier to digest. If you have more links and more information, I appreciate you throwing them my way. Maybe I’ll throw some of them into my own wiki.

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