I got banned from reddit (honestly feel a lot better without it)

But I miss being able to answer stupid questions and relationship questions.

Lemmy is great, but why aren’t there that many people on here? I don’t get it.

An I using my filters wrong or something?

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    This just comes of as argumentative flaming. They didn’t imply or even suggest they voted (at all), and you’re just springboarding off that assumption to throw off-topic insults and guilt by association, before getting to this absolute troll phrase “You hate the working class and your policy is actively classist”.

    Read the lemmy.ml instance rules. Even just the first two.

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      They didn’t imply or even suggest they voted (at all),

      Of course they did. A communist would say “I don’t support Biden, I voted PSL or write-in. You’ve got me completely wrong.”

      The wording he chose was specifically “I don’t like what Biden is doing” which comes with the implicit “but I voted blue no matter who because I’m a fucking liberal that supports capital”.

      Read the lemmy.ml instance rules. Even just the first two.

      Yes I’m well aware of their recent application of this, we’ve had conversations about it. It upsets me more that Lemmy got dragged into this mindset when it could do it better.

      before getting to this absolute troll phrase “You hate the working class and your policy is actively classist”.

      I don’t know what your problem is with me saying you hate the working class if you engage in classism. If you engage in racism you hate marginalised races. Same shit, different hierarchy. Classism is prejudice and bigotry directed at the working class.

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        The wording he chose was specifically “[misquote]” which comes with the implicit “but I voted blue no matter who because I’m a fucking liberal that supports capital”.

        No, it doesn’t come with that. Any of it. You invented an enemy that doesn’t exist.

        Someone said: “I think Biden is doing a terrible job and I’m an anarchist.”

        The rest is all you making assumptions that most likely aren’t true. It’s as nonsensical as me saying that you just said a communist would have voted in a US federal election, so you’re clearly a social democrat reformist with faith in the bourgeois system and therefore an anti-communist. The extrapolation is tenuous, inflammatory and probably completely wrong.

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          It’s as nonsensical as me saying that you just said a communist would have voted in a US federal election, so you’re clearly a social democrat reformist with faith in the bourgeois system and therefore an anti-communist.

          This is explicitly wrong though. Communist theory actively endorses participation in bourgeoise democracy but NOT to support bourgeoise parties, Lenin is extremely clear about this in “Left-Wing” Communism: an Infantile Disorder. We socialists participate in bourgeoise democracy to support explicitly socialist candidates as a means of using the electoral platform as a space to spread socialist messages to more people. Not to win, because that would be stupid to believe in for a system explicitly designed from top to bottom to produce a bourgeoise outcome.

          Anarchist theory on the other hand is explicitly opposed to participation in bourgeoise democracy. Such participation, especially in the case of voting for bourgeoise parties, is just explicitly functioning as a liberal within society, upholding the system, accepting and participating in it, subordinating yourself to it. It is the exact polar opposite of being ungovernable. There is a huge trend among liberal americans lately to pretend they are further left than they actually are, they participate in the system as liberals while calling themselves anarchists, the anarchism is functionally just an aesthetic to them. I only have to talk to my fellow wobblies to know shit is dire over there.

          probably completely wrong.

          Nah I’m standing by it being correct. They would have denied it instead of downvoting and running away, because the accusation would have been offensive.

          Meanwhile over here the socialist left looks at Keith fucking Starmer and is ready to not participate at all. Fuck the Labour party and fuck the liberals that have taken it over. We’ll shut down the entire country via union agitation instead until we get our way. The very idea of voting for a shitty socdem like Starmer offends the entire left. Let alone voting for someone to the right of fucking Boris and Thatcher while pretending to still be a leftist. It’s a literal joke. I’m willing to accept it when people own up to it and admit that it was a complete mistake to do so but anyone that stands by doing so and claims they are not functioning as a liberal is just lying to themselves.