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I am @humanetech at Mastodon, #FOSS and #Fediverse advocate, mod at SocialHub, and facilitator of Humane Tech Community.
I help fight tech harms and “Promote Solutions that Improve Wellbeing, Freedom and Society”.
Adding reference to HN submission of this article. Discussion thus far has 233 comments.
I maintain some lists too, PR’s welcome:
Have a look at #flohmarkt, federated decentral classified ad software using #activitypub: https://codeberg.org/grindhold/flohmarkt By @grindhold@chaos.social
Oh, that kind is good. Constructive feedback is very valuable. But the fediverse is full of people dropping derogatory sarcastic comments or even reacting in rage, that aren’t helpful in the slightest. I should’ve made that clearer in my first comment.
There’s no responsibility at all. There’s also full freedom to complain however you wish. If you do that on someone’s free work with which they try to help others, it just doesn’t look very good on you. That’s all.
Dating-like apps come up in fedi discussions quite often. They have interesting aspects, for instance where obviously privacy is a big concern and where current generation of federated apps aren’t adequate for dating. And how do communities / instances establish their trustworthiness? There are kinds of ‘dating’ were the requirements can be less severe. Like “Meet new Friends” kind of services where e.g. you seek folks for collaborative gameplay in some MMORPG or something.
One thing I don’t get. Among the gazilion “Oh, it is sooo easy to do this better” complainers are countless developers and designers. This whole Mastodon thing is Free Software, where countless people spent some of their free time and energy to give you what there is today. Complainer devs and UX folks, are your PR’s getting rejected?
Well, you are a Person too in this Peopleverse. If that’s your preference, that’s perfectly fine and a valid coice. Whatever enriches your life!
IFTAS: “Independent Federated Trust and Safety”, a non-profit, has started to deal with “everything moderation”.
Yes, but it is the general idea. We are so focused on apps. In a follow-up Towards a #Peopleverse I argue that more of a shared vision is what we need to get the Fediverse to its full potential.
As a clarification to this reply I wrote Towards a #Peopleverse.
If it wasn’t clear, this is satyrical. The fragmentation of the Fediverse as a grassroots movement has good and bad aspects. Good, because it highlights its diversity and with that comes resilience. Bad, because we got Facebook coming our way, along with countless corporations that’ll follow in their wake… they can easily flood what we have under a see of branding and marketing (and yes, you’ll be able to avoid that, but the Fediverse won’t be the same).
Fully agree. Those doing Groups need to be continuously reminded about this compatibility. Tendency to “wheel reinvention” is high and co-creation is also not front and center in thinking with implementers, unfortunately. There’s a Groups FEP created by Lemmy dev. I nudged Flarum, nodeBB and Discourse folks to come together. On SocialHub @trwnh gave some great insights. I hope more FEP’s will be proposed, so that interop guarantees can be higher.
Current functionality of the plugin is still rather limited. The following 2 categories federate:
But right now that only creates a toot on a new topic creation, and replies from the fediverse aren’t becoming replies in the forum. Hellekin has experimented with it, and SocialHub is open to beta-test.
Oh for sure it would benefit a lot. A migration to Lemmy has come up in the past… though it would mean losing a ton of community/forum management features. But there’s movement towards federation of SocialHub, with The Pavilion who wrote an ActivityPub plugin. It is enabled on the SocialHub and 2 categories are currently federating. The plugin will be developed further, and feedback is being collected. See:
Two more forum softwares are adding federation support: Flarum and nodeBB
That second comment by goplayoutside says it well: “Maybe the modest technical hurdles are a feature, not a bug.”
I think it is a feature, and the same is true for Mastodon and the Fediverse as a whole, imho.
Via @indieterminacy@lemmy.ml and the author Sarah Gilbert via this toot presenting her paper “Towards Intersectional Moderation: An Alternative Model of Moderation Built on Care and Power” (PDF).
The reason for the comment count being off has been found. In Settings you need to have ‘Undetermined’ in your language selection, or any comment where language wasn’t specified becomes invisible (incl. old comments before language was a property on posts).
Thanks for those links. Note btw that Github is planning their own moves wrt one-stop-shop development. You can get a taste of that at https://githubnext.com where they share some of their product research with the public. A scary (for FOSS) development here, is Blocks marketplace that will serve to consolidate 3rd-party ecosystem product UI’s on their own platform.
If you don’t mind, I delete this post again. This is not a community for such tests, there may be a Lemmy-related one that’s better suited.