I have a NAS as my primary photo backup solution and one day someone will make a photo frame that I can point at it and it will just cycle through photos, but until that day, it’s just a blackhole of memories. That said, that blackhole is important enough to me that I also back up online.
That said, given the new AI race, it’s less safe than ever before and I’m seeking somewhere I can stick my photos and videos really cheaply and securely. Somewhere with pedigree that seems like it would be around in ten years. Also, someone with a modern design team so the app doesn’t look like shit (preferably an open source Material You app targetting Android 14) and I can get notifications with daily memories.
Buy another NAS and run it at a mates house? If your house burns down hopefully theirs is fine?
Dunno why I find this hilarious, but I do. That said, I need to buy myself a new NAS before I think about one for a friend 🥺
Easy then, buy a new one for you, give the old one to your friend :)
I wasnt really joking either, the upfront costs might be higher, but longer term will be cheaper than a cloud service. And hopefully more secure.
i have a nas for my backup at my parents house. you don’t need friends for this 🤷
throw Immich on the nas and backup the Photos as a pgp encrypted file on some cheap cloud service
I guess I’ll spend some time looking into Immich. Thanks for the suggestion.
Probably ditch PGP and use rclone on a cron job to backup your photos to an encrypted remote. Then you can use whatever cloud provider is the cheapest at the time.
Ente is cool, but not cheap. Immich is free.
What does AI have to do with your NAS being less secure?
The AI is about my pictures being used to train facial recognition when they’re sitting in the cloud.
But that wouldn’t happen if your NAS is your backup solution, right?
If OP is attempting a 3-2-1 Backup scheme, this is an irrelevant argument.
OP wants to store a backup in a different physical location while trusting that it won’t be used to train AI. They are looking for services that can satisfy that.
This. My NAS does a good job. But if it dies, I’ll lose everything, hence wanting to backup my NAS photos.
Edit: Good job is stretching it. I need to invest in a new NAS next year.
Now that makes sense. Didn’t realize we were talking about back ups!
Any reason you don’t just encrypt before backing up?
Not the OP, but I tried encrypting my files before uploading them to OneDrive. Microsoft did not liked that and was constantly bugging me regarding potential threats.
For the moment, lacking any better solution/knowledge, I put DIY encrypted cloud backups on hold (and went back to using iCloud which as far as I understand is encrypted, and as I’d rather not have MS nor Google constantly sniffing my personal files at all) but I will have a look at Hetzner offering. If it’s doable for a non-geek like myself to configure a Storage Box for automated backups, I may decide to use that instead. Being EU-based makes it a + as far as I’m concerned.
The Ente suggestion went right under my radar. It actually looks like a really solid suggestion, thank you.
I’ve used ente on a family plan for the last year and really like it. Although I have the aptitude to run a NAS, the last thing I want to do in my free time is look at a terminal. So for me, ente has been great - pretty plug and play.
No worries! Curious your thoughts on it if you decide to check it out more.
So the plan as it currently stands is to do real time photo backups with Immich and then back that up to a hetzner storage plan. But it’s just a plan for now since I haven’t even installed Immich yet. But the thinking is that it’s cheaper than Ente, which looks good and gives me more wiggle room.
Would an encrypted backup using something like Crytomator or Rsync fit your needs? It would allow you to use the cheaper cloud services without letting them see the content of your files.
Proton Drive is another good option.
as long as you use a backup solution that encrypts the data before storing it remotely you will be fine. i like borg backup with borgbase as my first off-site storage, and a nas somewhere else as my second off-site storage.
Hetzner has a storage box. It is like 5€/mo for 1TB NextCloud storage.
Sadly, the company that develops Nextcloud doesn’t see a dime from that, so it’s not really sustainable
What does that mean? NextCloud itself does not really host any servers themselves. If you want you can donate to them.
NextCloud makes money from companies/organisations that resell/host the software for the public or use it for their own people. Every organisation has the option not to give money to Nextcloud, but if you can afford it and don’t do it anyway, it’s a shitty thing to do, imo
Does Hetzner state that they do not give NextCloud money?
I know this from sources I cannot disclose, but apart from that the fact that they’re not using the Nextcloud trademark/logo should speak for itself
Alright fair. Do you then happen to know providers that do indeed give NextCloud money?
I use mega.nz. £50 a year for 400GB and it’s encrypted with your private key. The Linux support is really good with a nice sync, file browser extension, access via web etc.
I just keep it on my NAS. Seems like a very secure option. I also do an offsite encrypted backup to “cloud storage” using Restic. Although I’m not sure I would recommend it, it is a bit flaky.
I use File Coffee to store (and also share) fotos,videos, docs, presentations, PDF, txt, files… Made in the EU, Netherlands.
