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Care to elaborate?

@iung
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Sharing sources in the description would help.

CHEF-KOCH
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We had this topic multiple times, why not search.

I think this thread covers the most.

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I don’t trust session and their loki.net.

@Lynda
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Status is another contender.

There’s still a lot more evolution opportunity, and hope to see more.

web3? I am out

I like my messengers to serve the users, not a corporation or a cryptocurrency.

@Lynda
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Ethereum network does. It’s decentralized and open source and maintained by the community.

I don’t care for it.

@Lynda
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You don’t like decentralized apps/networks? Would you rather apps be hosted by corporations?

no I love decentralized apps and networks. That’s why I use the fediverse and lemmy.

@Lynda
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Status supports Dapps/Web3…decentralized apps/network.

@gmate8
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Yes. I posted about it a while ago. But the app depends on crypto, so… People did not really like it.

@Lynda
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I’m not an expert, and this gets confusing…but I think saying Status depends on “crypto” is misleading. It is my understanding Ethereum is a protocol, not a currency. Therefore Ethereum can be used in multiple ways (currency, wallets, network, web apps).

It would also seem to me that everything is a transaction. Messages are a transaction. Exchanging currency is a transaction. Getting a web page on my web browser is a transaction. The Ethereum protocol/network manages that instead of the typical web controlled by corporations and government.

I’m not saying Status is the holy grail, but I like the idea that I can easily run a node to decentralize the network, and hope the P2P concept becomes a reality. I’m still not 100% sure how running a node actually works, and all the potential problems.

I still think Session is more mature. While I wish I can run a Session node without staking, I think I might understand why its necessary for network durability.

Ideally I would like to see something where everyone (non-mobile) is both a client/server. Something more like bittorrent, DHT, mesh, I2P. But dealing with offline messages seems to be a challenge of a decentralized network.

P2p messaging (everyone is client and server) also has very high resource use, since it has to keep the connection running at all times!

Maybe this won’t be a problem in the future, but for now it still is :)

@Lynda
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I have doubts true P2P will be solved. But Status may have the next best solution.

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What about Tox and briar etc. Why Status? Only these if you need p2p. What’s wrong with Matrix or XMPP. They’re both great, have very low resource clients which is important.

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I like Tox over Tor…really fast. But offline messaging is a problem.

I don’t like Briar because it is Android only.

I don’t like XMPP/Matrix because its more technical with too many options. I also want something anonymous. I also prefer not having a centralized server to connect or relay messages. You can accomplish these things, but its not simple for the average user.

Signal would make my list if I didn’t have the hand over my phone number.

Status, Session, and Tox+Tor are my favorites right now. Mainly because they do everyone I want without me having to do anything. Session seems to be more mature and active. Status has some interesting concepts, but it is too soon to see how they’ll workout, or someone from Status needs to do a lot better job of explaining it to me. So Session is my goto.

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