I’ve been trying to find a good Marxist instance, but Lemmygrad and Hexbear are widely hated. Why is that? Are there any good leftist instances?

  • DogMuffins@discuss.tchncs.deEnglish
    3516·
    1 year ago

    Not really.

    In most communities you can at least entice some robust discussion, hexbear just seems sp aggressively intolerant of alternative views.

      • rando895
        224·
        1 year ago

        Look, how can we be tolerant if we don’t tolerate intolerance

        -Genocide Joe probably

      • JungleJim@sh.itjust.works
        1718·
        1 year ago

        Love how at the very idea of somebody disagreeing with you, you start throwing up all sorts of topics you know are hot buttons just so you can preemptively slam anyone who has a different perspective than you. Rather than taking a second to teach a single thing about the topics you claim to care about you just flash them like political merit badges to prove you’re in the in-group, and anybody who doesn’t know exactly what one of those things are, or what you think is the truth about it, is worth dismissing out of hand. It’s just a secret handshake that if people don’t parrot it back to you they’re not worth debating. You were never here for healthy debate though. You don’t care about convincing anyone or advancing your causes or ideas. You’re here for the badges.

        • Amerikan Pharaoh@lemmygrad.ml
          194·
          1 year ago

          >sh.itsfulla.nazis poster

          >demanding to be debated seriously with no attempt on their part to do any kind of proper, scientifically-sound investigation

          >mfw

          • JungleJim@sh.itjust.works
            1516·
            1 year ago

            See, this is why people have problems with ML and hexbears. How will you ever bring the revolution when you can’t stop screeching? Nobody wants that. Nobody wants to be around it. You’ll be a revolution of one because nobody can take being around such an abrasive asshole long enough to even listen to their points, much less realize they might be right.

            Imagine somebody walking down the street. They see a poster on the wall of the store they pass. It’s a Starbucks. “Looks tasty, I’m cold” they say. Suddenly, you’re there, shrieking about labor rights and fair trade. You are without a doubt correct, but you’ve scared the person and now they’re annoyed. One of those drones inside with the green hats comes out and sees the situation. They ask the customer to come inside where they’re safe from you, and now they’re buying overpriced drinks from exploited workers produced by exploited farmers etc.

            All because instead of talking to someone like a human, you had to be edgy and witty. You treat real humans the way tv characters talk to each other. On TV the wittiest oneo-liner wins. In real life you have to show a little human compassion, even if you’re faking it or else you alienate who you’re talking to and are left in an echo chamber, alone, or in the case of our imagined scenario the employees may call security or police (agents of oppression, and they’ll probably buy coffee too) on a person harassing potential customers.

            • Amerikan Pharaoh@lemmygrad.ml
              174·
              1 year ago

              “some leftists were mean to me on a meaningless forum so i voted to uphold the fascist amerikan status quo” you are a fucking child lmao

              • Gormadt
                144·
                1 year ago

                The only way leftist will win any political ground is by winning allies

                Screaming down every person who you have a disagreement with politically will only solidify their dislike for the people you claim to represent

                It’s funny to me seeing you claim that the other people lack awareness and empathy when you seemingly fail to grasp that people don’t enjoy the way you are portraying your political views

                • Amerikan Pharaoh@lemmygrad.ml
                  33·
                  1 year ago

                  Anglos literally do not deserve alliance; I’d sooner ally with an Iranian, a North Korean, or a Palestinian than the likes of you and yours. I do not think ‘hearts and minds’ dealing with you skullduggerous swine; I think ‘existential enemy’.

                  EDIT: lmao 🦀

                  • Kecessa@sh.itjust.works
                    105·
                    1 year ago

                    You know what we call it when you take an ethnic group and act like all its members are the same?

                  • HikingVet@lemmy.ca
                    53·
                    1 year ago

                    What’s stopping them from redrawing their borders at the negotiating table?

      • Gormadt
        1012·
        1 year ago

        Ukraine good Russia bad?

        Sorry I don’t side with imperialism.

        Ukraine wants to not be invaded by it’s neighbor, and Russia did so to conquer it in direct contradiction to a treaty it signed when Ukraine gave it’s nukes to Russia after the fall of the Soviet Union. On multiple occasions.

      • Echo Dot@feddit.uk
        713·
        1 year ago

        Do you actually believe these things or do you just say them to try to get a rise out of people because I’ve never been able to work that one