• linkert
    5·
    4 years ago

    What!? Are you telling me more stuff and tech will not solve our ecological destruction and resource depletion? Shocker!

  • iancynk
    4·
    4 years ago

    Wait! Are you saying that capitalism will not fight the climate disruption despite it being way way way more expensive than investing in a healthier future?

    Are you saying that we will keep investing in fossil fuels despite them being more expensive than renewables?

    How are we gonna explain this? 🤦

  • Torquatus
    3·
    4 years ago

    Why isn’t green capitalism gonna work? What is the argument

    • linkert
      3·
      4 years ago

      Because capitalism is not governed. It relies on the market making sound green choices - which is not happening any day soon as companies relies on short term profits.

      Also, this is my take on it. High-tech solutions have never solved anything, they just bring other issues. Vertical farming is a resource intensive joke, shutting down nuclear plants trying to replace them with wind and solar is futile and frankly childish. The amount if maintenance to cover for the enormous amount of fossil fuel dependent panels and wind turbines is insane if we intend to have a reliable high output. Wind and solar have its place but its not to a good option to power whole cities - rather, single or a limited number of households in close vicinity to such power sources might be an option.

      There have to be a reformation on how we live our lifes rather than more stuff, more tech - and I’m not saying rewind the tape 300 years to “simpler” times - but rather a fusion of now and then. We need the small scale villages and local food production of yester years, but also the communication and logistics of now. Et cetera… The reduction of noncontributing cities is a must…

      Yeah, I’ll just stop my self there because the whole subject and issue is so large a nuanced there will never be an end to the ranting.

      Shots fired, give it to me!

      • Torquatus
        1·
        4 years ago

        the whole subject and issue is so large a nuanced there will never be an end to the ranting

        I think I agree. I don’t know much about it, but I’ve read of some examples, like circular economy, that are really effective in a short-scale environment. Nuclear energy is very controversial though; I would agree that renewable energy isn’t still worth the cost, but I hope that there will be innovative ideas that may help. About the third paragraph: very interesting. The thing is, globalization can’t be avoided; what you’re saying already exists, but because there’s competitivity, and people prefer mainstream products, it would be hard to regress to separated villages and cities, in my opinion. I hope I understood that correctly, let me know

  • grummle@sh.itjust.works
    2·
    1 year ago

    “Termination Shock” had some good thoughts around that. When climate change makes the property the 1% own worthless they’ll get on board.