I’d love to take it out for a spin, but derpy.email has closed registrations.

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    Isn’t lenny the fork that takes out the slur filter? I don’t think it does anything else so there’s not much to take for a spin.

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      Sounds like a lot to me! It allows for fewer restraints while posting.

      Lemmy is okay, but it won’t be a completely usable tool until it allows open communication, which the devs are opposed to.

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        Open communication requires people to be comfortable. I don’t see how being able to say slurs helps communication in any way.

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          Open communication requires people to be comfortable.

          This is false. Open communication requires that communication be unrestricted, or with as little restrictions as possible.

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            Tell me then how open and good the discussion is on 8chan or the other uncensored free speech sites like it. Any site that tries to make their site have unequivocal free speech has always led to being a site full of trolls, nazis, and edgy teens. This isn’t conductive for quality discussion. (unless you want “quality discussion” of race science and other fascist garbage) If you want good discussion then you need to moderate the space. Go to any technology board and see how much they moderate. Go to hobby forums and see how much they moderate. Some may be more lax than others, but moderation is key to making your site a place where people enjoy being and feel comfortable enough to participate.

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              I’m not arguing against moderation, I’m just saying that maybe a communication platform shouldn’t have hard coded word bans 🤷🏾‍♂️

              I’m not against automated tools for moderation, I actually support them and advocate for that feature to be added to Mastodon and Pleroma. But it should be an easily customize feature disabled by default that allows instances to pick whatever words they want to ban, or to not ban words at all.

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                The reason lemmy has a hardcoded slur filter is because almost all the reddit alternatives end up as alt-right cesspools. The hardcoded slur filter is to make it less appealing to those people… It does cause some issues in other languages and the lemmy devs know and are working on fixing that.

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                  Heh well if you think blocking a small list of words will keep people from saying alt-right things, I can’t help ya, buddy.

                  If you want to prune extremism from a platform just moderate your spaces properly.

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        I don’t think they published the code even yet? (Although per license of course they should.)

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    I’d love to take it out for a spin

    Lol just say you wanna use slurs, that’s literally the only difference

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      You probably know better than that, Lemmy bans curse words as well as slurs. This limits the shareability of news articles, is more of an encumbrance and inconvenience to the end user than anything else

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        I’ve read the Lemmy slur filter many times and I highly doubt sharing news articles with these specific words in the title is a common issue worth complaining about, especially since the slur list was shortened recently. Even then, all it would require is modifying one word of the title. Is that seriously so much to ask for?

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          I feel like being able to say whatever words you want isn’t too much to ask for but here we are! 😂

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    The only one I know is derpy.email, they apparently federate with lemmy.cat and they pretend they federate with lemmy.ml. Just make your own server, you must have a lot of followers on Mastodon to join in.

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        Don’t know about that, not a coder, but Lenny should be very similar to Lemmy, so I don’t see the federation between both shouldn’t work.

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            No, it won’t. Really, the developers of Lemmy are not assholes, they do a great job. Unfortunately I can’t tell the same thing about the developers of a fork that don’t work well and isn’t Fediverse.

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              the developers of Lemmy are not assholes

              A-holes, perhaps they are not, specifically. But their stance on this antifeature is a very jerk-like move, on their end.

              [Lenny is] a fork that [doesn’t] work well and isn’t Fediverse

              Ooh interesting! There are key differences between Lenny and Lemmy? What functionality does Lemmy have that Lenny is missing?

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                Sorry, but you altered my words, I didn’t say nothing about Lenny.

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                  What project were you referring to here?

                  Unfortunately I can’t tell the same thing about the developers of a fork that don’t work well and isn’t Fediverse.