This fucking worm is going to kill us all.

How does this look if NATO says no? If they say yes, that means the U.S. and its puppets are officially at war with Russia! Holy fucking shit!

Hopefully they just sweep it under the fucking rug and continue losing a war of attrition rather than bring nuclear apocalypse down on us.

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        Sources are varied;

        The White House says that Now is not the time for the process of Ukraine’s admission to NATO, “it should be taken up at a different time” — White House

        NATO will not participate in the war in Ukraine, because “the war will end before Ukraine goes through all the necessary procedures to join the Alliance” - adviser to the head of the President Zelensky Office Mikhail Podolyak

        I think I had more, seems ASB Mil (the only Telegram channel I can tolerate because they don’t spam news every second) deleted some of their messages.

        From the “unprecedented” statement NATO gave also I don’t see anything about allowing Ukraine in (just saying Ukraine is allowed to apply), but I didn’t read all the questions and answers.

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          Thanks comrade. It’s incredible how demeaning NATO is being and how absolutely cucked Zelensky and co. are. Like “hey there little buddy, it’s cute and all you wanna join our club and you TOTALLY can after the war’s over – which it’s gonna be over soon, we pinky promise. Hold on tight til then, champ?”

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    God fucking damnit… Rationally there’s no reason why NATO should allow this, not least of all because of that rule about not having active territorial disputes, but when has NATO ever been rational

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    Ukraine is winning so hard that they have to sprint to get into NATO so they can openly hide behind the US. Schrodinger’s war: The Russians are both the most incompetent fighting force in human history, but will also demolish Ukraine if someone doesn’t step in.

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    NATO applicants are supposed to be free of active territorial disputes at the time of joining. Has that consideration been dropped for Ukraine?

    EDIT : grammar

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      It hasn’t been dropped afaik. Ukraine simply presents it knowing they won’t be accepted, to put pressure on EU to at least arm them heavily, on request of USA.

      If it were dropped, that’s a precendent that will come back to bite them. Any country being attacked can apply for NATO and complain if they are rejected

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      Technically they have to debate it once it’s presented, even if it was discussed before. Also, no voting on weekends

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    Turkey wonna vote no, suck up the opposition, and a lot of european leaders are gonna let out a sound of relax. I am pretty sure NATO application had to be done with well defined borders while at peace. Hence why many border agreements had to be doen firsthand

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      Turkey wonna vote no

      Here’s hoping. But I’m sure Erdogan would want something in return for that, like he did with Sweden

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        The west is the one interested in war not getting to them. They will pay Erdogan extra for the Syrian immigrants and hopefully that’s it.

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    Yeah, saw this on twitter. So many Libs praising Ukraine for being so strong and that their application should be fast tracked.

    Others saying NATO should feel lucky Ukraine wants to join them; it’s a privilege, really. Some even stating that NATO should join Ukraine. Absolute brain worms.

    It makes me so angry but also scares the shit out of me that my country, Canada, is part of NATO. Which isn’t shocking as we try to please the US as much as possible, plus after WWII the Canadian government basically welcomed Nazis, specifically from the Ukraine, with open arms. I was, and still am, hopeful for some type of communist movements, but with the US right fucking there and with all the bullshit this nation has pulled without its own citizens even knowing? My outlook it unfortunately bleak.

    I don’t know where we’re headed but I’m feeling very pessimistic…