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    More competition doesn’t work if there’s a whole platform dedicated to hateful misinformation.

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      2 years ago

      Better than Zuckerberg deciding what we’re allowed to say.

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        Eh? You do know that truth social is just going to ban any opposing worldviews right? Hell its even known to use mastodon code illegally. They’re not one of the better ones out there.

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          You do know that truth social is just going to ban any opposing worldviews right?

          Lemmy started out like that as well. It has drastically changed, though. Good on the devs for that. I really mean it.

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          Reread what I wrote. I don’t expect Truth Social to be anything good. It’s just that having alternatives is better than a single monopoly.

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            Its an alternative the same way r/conservative is an alternative to r/thedonald. Except instead of answering to reddit admins they have to worry about their host putting up with their shit, ddosing, and everything else that comes with running your own platform.

            Shit like this is still controlled by a group of people dedicated to spreading their bullshit ‘truth’ while silencing any opinions/facts that disagree with their predetermined narrative.

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              i really don’t see the issue with that though. isn’t it great that they’re over there, rather than in here?

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                No, bubbles never work for the better of the society. Constant intellectual challenge on the other hand does.

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                  you mean like how commercial social media literally push you to be in constant conflict because it drives user interaction and helps them generate wealth while also destabilizing nations and causing violent conflicts as a “reasonable” consequence?

                  no thanks, i want to be able to exist without perpetual idiocracy. i’m pretty sure their rhetoric causes brain damage at this point. let them be dumb on their own. and their world slowly crumble as they kill themselves off with antivax, nomask, guns, bleach, etc.

                  it’s a problem that eventually solves itself when their belief is confronted with actual reality.

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                    I’m amazed that you think that while the whole conversation was about promoting fediverse, you somehow deduced that I want people to be using algorithm based platforms like twitter and Facebook.

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            And I’m just saying we need better mainstream alternatives. This is nothing to be celebrated because this just puts a stain on alt-tech

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              Quite the contrary. If Truth Social succeeds, then it will encourage more competition to enter this space. If it fails, then people will be reluctant to enter this space.

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                  I don’t want Truth Social to succeed because I like it. I want TruthSocial to demonstrate that we’re not condemned to use Twitter/Facebook etc for eternity. That it is realistic to challenge them and win.

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                    Hasn’t the fediverse already proven that?

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                    So why not just work on promoting lemmy and mastodon? Given that Truth social is just a bastardized version of mastodon.

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          They already ban anyone without a full on trump loving opinion. Its just more weaponization of freeze peach.

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          Hell its even known to use mastodon code illegally.

          Truth Social’s code is open source. It uses elements of Mastodon and Soapbox.

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            The only reason they released the source code is because people dug around the pre-release versions of the site and found it was based on Mastodon, while TS claimed they owned all copyrights to the software. They were in breach of Mastodon’s license.

            They would have gotten away with it if this had never came to light.

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      What’s important is invalidating the idea that only a handful of oligarch owned sites are legitimate media. The more alternative platforms appear the more the better in my opinion.

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          Of course, but my point was that normalizing having a lot of different sites is valuable. One of the main problems I see is the notion that only information that comes from a few mainstream sites is legitimate, and everything else can just be ignored out of hand. Having more media platforms and public forums is helping challenge that.