1. The axis didn’t occupy Soviet territory either, until they launched a sudden all out surprise attack to defeat it. NATO’s hostility towards Russia is as clear as Axis-Soviet hostilities were back then and the Soviets might of perhaps saved millions by proactively seizing Romanian Oil fields in 1940 like Russia is doing today with Ukraine.

2. Regardless if Neo-Nazis in Ukraine are few in number or not, NATO supplied weapons shouldn’t be ending up in their fucking hands.

3. Iraq is relevant because the US never got sanctioned for it like Russia has. It still wouldn’t too late to sanction the US over it but Western countries won’t of course because their fucking hypocrites.

Libs when Trump supports Nazis: “If 10 people sit down at a table with a Nazi, there are 11 Nazis at the table.”

Libs when they support Nazis: “You’re smearing me! Guilt by association!!”

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They forgot the fifth bulletpoint:

• Can you think for yourself?

Fact check:

1. Putin actually have both moral and legal justification for the military intervention in Ukraine since the current Kyiv government are massacreing civilians in the Donbass region for 8 years to force the rebelling states into submission. Putin had attempted peaceful negotiation to resolve the civil war for that 8 years but the Kyiv government by coop and later government by rigged election refuse peace. The majority of the population in Donbass and Crimea also voted for either unification with Russia or independence that the Russian military intervention is clearly supporting. Also, the Russian military only target military bases and military soldiers who use civilians and civilian buildings as shield so the Russian actions are justifiable. The logic that no one should stop the humanitarian intervention against NATO terrorist actions conflicts with NATO’s logic that they can intervene in any country victimize people who allegedly commit mass murder even when they have no evidence of the victim’s involvement in the alleged violence (omitting the fact that the argument implied that Zelenskyy is NATO`s puppet).

2. The presence of Neo-Nazi within Ukraine`s military should raise concern because of the suspicions that Neo-Nazi have close connection with the current Kyiv government and the lack of actual evidence to blame Putin for the war crimes. The Neo-Nazi could as very well be responsible for all the atrocities that were blamed on Putin by pro-NATO fake news. They also reportedly use Ukrainian children as soldiers and Ukrainian civilains as shield which raise suspicions as NATO and Zelenskyy refuse explanation about the allegations.

3. The claim that USA illegally invade Iraq is relevent in this case since it affects the credibility of US government who claim that Putin has no justification for the military intervention in Ukraine and who claim that all the war crimes in Ukraine are from Russians and not Ukraine Neo-Nazi. USA is the one who claimed that Putin have no justification for the military intervention and that Russians is behind the crimes against Ukrainian citizen so the confession that USA illegally invade Iraq raise implications that Putin have both legal and ethical reason for the military intervention and that the war crimes in Ukraine are either fabricated or originated from the Ukraine Neo-Nazi.

On point 1: NATO is definitely not the real victim here, regardless of what side you’re on.

wait… so im a russian bot all the time ?

As for point two, only 5% of the German military was a part of the SS. You don’t need a lot of membership to have a lot of power.

Their response to the fact that NATO extension was an element that provoked the invasion is to point out that… there is an invasion

Like literally that’s what they say, we say NATO played a role in Russia invading Ukraine and their argument against that is just “yet it’s Russia who’s invading” like yes we knew, there is literally no argument

And you know the worst thing about this is that it works, I was actually confused by the argument and I had a hard time addressing it because the best way of sounding right is to be actually illogical enough to prevent a logical response from being made

Beep boop i am an russian robot

My reasons for supporting a Russian victory has nothing to do with nuance anymore.

Now it’s fuck you, NATO and US. I know you. I know your deeds. I know your ambitions. Fuck you to pieces. You’re well beyond even being able to tell the truth anymore. Your crimes are so vast; that you wouldnt even be the lesser evil if pissed off Martians started lazering cities into carbon.

Some neo nazis? It appears to be the majority.

Nuance is Russian propaganda! Every reasonable person knows that real-life conflicts are black-and-white just like a superhero movie!

So basically, just use your brain?

• USA is not a victim.
• Guilt by association is entirely valid when that “association” consists of handing political and military power to Nazis.
• There is no “competitive victimhood”, this point just highlights you’re a racist who only cares about victims of war when they’re white, and even then only in ways that benefits US hegemony. (So no calls for peace, instead calls for escalation using the victims as justification)