Is it important to you that your significant other is a communist?

  • Catradora-Stalinism☭@lemmygrad.mlM
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    2 years ago

    I will only be able to take having a communist or anarchist boo, but I need to clean up my act if I’m going to date someone. Everyone deserves better.

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      It’s super cool that you want to take the initiative with this! But also, I think a good long term partner should be someone who cares enough to grow with you. More or less: don’t sell yourself short, you seem pretty good person already.

  • Idliketothinkimsmart@lemmygrad.ml
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    If it came to raising children, then perhaps, but I dunno man. I have one life and I’d hate to deprive myself of love because of ideological purity. If they were very reactionary then that would be quite a deal breaker.

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      idk if I could do that, like friends maybe, but the person I may be closest to? they have to be at least anti-american and anti-capitalist

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        Pro-American (meant as not the people but the govt/ruling class), Pro-capitalist certainly should be a Big No when considering “closest” person

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    Mine isn’t, but she is also from, and still a citizen of, a nation that actively and openly imprisons and kills Marxists. As in, her nation massacred half a city over it. So I understand her hesitation in reading theory or what have you. So she is a liberal.

    That said, she is at least not a bigot, did LGBTQ+ activism, marched in solidarity with unions in her country even though we got hit with fire hoses filled with military grade pepper spray, that sort of thing. She also said to me multiple times that we (Amerikkkans) need a revolution.

    So while she hasn’t been able to completely shake off her feelings in favor of Capitalism, her heart is in the right place. And she’s supportive of me and my growing personal praxis with the IWW, and even came along with me sometimes when I was looking for a Communist Party to join (it was unsuccessful, still searching).

    • CountryBreakfast@lemmygrad.mlOP
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      This is similar for my partner and me. We were not communists when we met. We didn’t even talk about politics then, but we did talk about religion a lot. I was a deconstructing Christian when we first met, they were a long-time atheist. Although I was pretty political at the time, I was in a transition period and more looking to learn more and we ended up learning together.

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          Thats right. I use it to say I was questioning foundational portions of Christianity instead of more interdenominational questions. It was a somewhat short period as I transitioned into a more explicit atheist view. Idk if the term was around at the time. I think I called myself an agnostic Christian or something just as we met. Previously I would not have been comfortable around an atheist. Some people might say I’m still a deconstructing Christian because I think some people use it as a sort of post-Christian or skeptical Christian identity that encompasses more than agnostics or atheists or changing religions, but also some Christians. I’d say my relationship with my partner helped me be able to see myself as a total non-Christian and atheist. Thanks for reading my life story lmao

  • KiwiProle@lemmygrad.ml
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    2 years ago

    Not Communist but certainly sympathetic to the cause. I don’t think it’s important that she is an active Communist, but it would be a strain on the relationship if she thought the work I did was wrong or even evil.

  • Thebeyond1@lemmygrad.ml
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    No, but she is anti-capitalist and doesn’t believe in electoral politics. She also likes China a bit thanks to me lol.

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    For me the answer is yes. My partner is also a communist. I’m not sure I could be with someone that wasn’t at this point, but obviously life is complicated.

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    My wife and I are both communists, we’re also ex-Mormon as well. Leaving that cult really helped radicalize us. Once you learn to see through the bullshit in one oppressive system, it is pretty easy to do the same in regards to the political economic system that you live under.

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    Deep down I think yes. But not openly. Her main problem with it is that she thinks it too idealistic. She also doesn’t want to read theory. But she also has other stuff going on and is not that busy with politics these days.

    She is opening up to the idea slowly, so I think she’ll get there. She is left wing though.

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    Depends if they are someone who has interest in politics or not. If they are “apolitical” I can take it even though it’s not ideal. If they are interested in politics they should be a communist too. I don’t think I can handle the arguments that would ensue if they aren’t.

  • 3lava3@lemmygrad.ml
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    As someone who hates conflict and arguments with close ones I couldn’t deal with my SO having vastly different opinions. Luckily, I found someone that is very open and even joined a communist organisation with me. I guess he was very apolitical when I met him and in that sense he was never that much exposed to anticommunist propaganda which made it easy to convince him.

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    Developing communist views takes a lot of active work. Neither of us were communists when we met, just your run of the mill progressive liberals. They’re not that interested in dedicating the time to learn theory like I am though. But I think they have reoriented their way of thinking a lot just by hearing my casual rants about shitlibs lol.

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      This is so true that becoming communist requires effort (nobody likes shifting through bs articles and having to use critical thinking to find sources to justify your arguments). But ye it’s nice to have close friends that see issues with capitalism.

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    I don’t think that partners, especially long term partners, should have such disparate views that they can’t speak with each other honestly or have to hide parts of themselves. That’s how you drive a wedge in things or end up with a loveless commitment. I am very honest with the people I care about and we’re driven to keep up with each other in terms of personal progress.

  • Comrade AppleDash@lemmygrad.ml
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    Not dating anyone right now but my ex was definitely a hardcore socialist, who believed very strongly in the need for revolution and supported BLM and ANTIFA, and she was also very sex positive. She didn’t consider herself a communist in practice but she did call herself a Marxist, and supported countries like Cuba and Bolivia. She was also the first person I’d met who was fine with dating an asexual person (me) so that was definitely great.

    I already considered myself a socialist when we started dating - I grew up in a leftist family so I’ve always had those politics ingrained in me - and I think it was good because I was never really vocal about my politics before, while she definitely was, so we could go back and forth and essentially anything we wanted. It helped me become more confident in my own views. We disagreed on a lot of things, especially when it came to “libertarian” socialism and “feminist” pornography, but we still got along swimmingly for a while. We broke up because of other matters completely unrelated to our politics. I only became a fully fledged ML long after we separated.

    To be honest, I don’t mind having a partner who isn’t as “hardline” as me. In fact, I think that as long as we agree on the same principle - that the capitalist system must be dismantled - then that’s all we really need to stand together, on a personal level at least.

    Also loving the amount of power couples I’m seeing in this thread ;)

  • savoy@lemmygrad.ml
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    Yes, and I think it’s important to at least have similar views.

    Certainly having a partner be a communist means that such an important part of your lives are compatible makes things easier, as well as having a built-in comrade no matter what. I’m sure relationships work where people with different political thoughts works, but I’ve only seen that (in the US) with a Democrat and a Republican partner. That would work fine given they’re both on the right, but I’m not sure anti-capitalist and pro-capitalists relationship would last, unless their or one of their views was lukewarm and not even close to revolutionary enough.