• IHave69XiBucks@lemmygrad.ml
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    Holy shit. 50%+ of global ship building is crazy. The US better not dare go to war with China cuz if they convert even a fraction of those shipyard to making naval vessels theyd be able to absolutely dominate the sea. And the US has its vassals in east asia doing most of its ship building which are within targetting range of chinese Ground based missile systems im pretty sure.

    The sheer incompetence of the US to let it get this bad is insane. It makes me think the empire will fall much sooner than i thought it would. I am so proud of our chinese comrades.

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      If the current global geopolitical situation were made into a novel, a metric-shit ton of people would think that the evil empire whining about being outcompeted by it’s rival and dogged underdog protagonist at over 200 times it’s shipbuilding capacity and being nearly completely unable to catch up would be a woefully unrealistic, stupid, plot armor deus ex machina type of thing.

      I’m so fucking glad it’s real.

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      Radhika Desai brought up a great point regarding this on the latest Geopolitical Economy podcast: civilian shipbuilding and military shipbuilding are complementary industries. China has both, the US only has one (military). Having both allows greater innovation and technological development as people and resources can move between both. What you may learn in civilian shipbuilding will have applications in military shipbuilding (or in more Marxist terms, practice helps build knowledge and understanding). If you only having military shipbuilding capabilities, in time you may very well lag behind other nations that have both (certain when you’re talking about the scale that China is at).

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        civilian shipbuilding and military shipbuilding are complementary industries. China has both, the US only has one (military)

        And even their military shipbuilding industry is decaying, showing that indeed you need both.

        Having both allows greater innovation and technological development as people and resources can move between both. What you may learn in civilian shipbuilding will have applications in military shipbuilding

        It’s probably a significant factor that recently US Navy is eating the constant stream of L’s

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      Wat. Pure fantasy lol

      Here:

      Because the second Americans feel threatened they unify like elephants around their young and then anything in their way gets leveled and practically turned into a mall parking lot.

      You wanna go toe to toe on this? Post your current country you live in. Let’s figure out if your gdp and military is even remotely capable of being on the same stage as China or America and then we can talk about logistics or my reasoning.

      I get it. It’s hexbear and lemmygrad. You guys suck Lenin’s dick or something. But Jesus fuck, it’s like watching people with 3rd grade educations cosplay as college students.

      • -6-6-6-@lemmygrad.ml
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        Your boot-boys got (thankfully) blown up by IEDs 24/7 while playing in the sandbox and couldn’t win a war against a bunch of farmers in both Afghanistan and Vietnam. Most of the military experience for the dirty jobs is given to private military contractors that for example fucked up a job in Venezeuala. GDP doesn’t mean a damn thing when over 40% of your country live paycheck to paycheck and don’t even get healthcare or higher education to boot. You think anyone is dying for this shithole country? Most people would gladly frag their commanding officers and good luck trying to get anyone in this generation to actually believe it’s a just war.

        Last time America and China went to war; it divided Korea in half. No one won that one. You think they’re going to somehow win now when America had a far more experienced, technologically advanced army compared to the Chinese then?

        The actual logistics of the military is a series of private contractors grifting off 10,000 dollar toilets and 200 dollar screws that is currently stocking away thousands of obsolete, outdated equipment that is getting blown up by cold-war era shit from Russia in Ukraine; unless you actually believe the propaganda that Ukraine is somehow claiming victory while losing territory simultaneously after getting 100s of billions of dollars in aid and military equipment (MUH HIMAAAARRRS)

        China hands down has a larger military, in the article itself reads 50% of the global shipbuilding and leads in academic publishing for multiple major academic newspapers in all fields of science. China also owns most of America’s commercial production. You can’t win a war when most of your domestic goods are made in the enemy’s country. But yeah, aircraft carriers and 70 million dollar jets will win the day!!

        Muh U.S ubermensch will beat your country cuz GDP!!! You literally sound like a third grader who learned about how awesome the military is through G.I Joe.

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        Why do you guys have such oral fixations? Anytime someone says something you don’t like they are supposedly sucking someone’s dick. Putin’s. Trump’s. Whoever’s.

        Childish behavior. But then what do you expect with an ideology that is morally bankrupt.

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          Standard lib response to drop their “civility” veneer and become homophobic the instant they think they can get away with it.

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        And with what are murricans supposed to do this? Their industries are either exported elsewhere or can not function without chinese imports.

        The US can not even maintain its fleet, most of it is in desperate need of a long stay in the dock.

        Maybe stop projecting your oral fixiation onto others and face the facts. The US can not wage an offensive war against China, and China does not care to wage one on the US.

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        Wowie, instead of actually making a coherent comment on the topic, you want to treat geopolitics like a sports team matchup.

        Lol. Lmao.

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            That isn’t an explanation, you’re just using a different word to say the same thing. Why is it copium?

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              I was saying that’s their reason, hence they didn’t provide any proof

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                They were referencing the article above though? And you don’t disprove a statement by simply saying “nu-uh!” at them. Why do you think what they are saying is untrue?

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                  Again, I’m not arguing against y’all. I’m arguing against the commenter saying the US is an almighty power that could snap its fingers and destroy China, which is pure cope devoid of any reasoning.

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                    I wasn’t trying to argue with you, I was trying to get you to clarify your position though? Sorry if it came across as combative.

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                  I think you have this copium comment mixed up comrade. I believe they are saying this lemmy.ee posters’ “America da best, China bad” comment is the cope. Not the article or the initial comment by the Lemmygrad user.

                  The .ee commenter provides nothing other than random spouting of western propaganda nonsense in response to an article showing China’s strength. That is the cope.

                  “What makes this claim fantasy” is cope. Cope is what makes it a fantasy. They are coping with the fact that China is beating them. So they beat their chest a scream about American being the best as a means to cope with the fact that China is beating them.

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                    Well, they haven’t provided me with a response so I have no idea what they think about the situation. There’s no way they would do something silly and embarrassing like burst in here and show how little they understand about the topic though. No way they would do that.