You HAVE to play as evil characters, anything else is “woke virtue signalling”
There is no real fights, every fight is a guaranteed ez clap. It would be “woke” to have the untersmech you’re smiting to put up any fight
Every story is the same, you play as a group of gods who take the form of vampire elves and you just one-shot your “inferiors”.
no need for resources, all the NPCs worship you and will give you everything you need free of charge.
anyone for a rousing campaign of traveller ?
Come on, i want my friends to try pathfinder.
What do you think the best selling point on Pathfinder is?
- Goblins are kooky lil footballheads that love pickles and hate dogs
- Gnomes will literally die if they get bored for too long
- Kobolds can cower so pathetically it causes enemies to pull their punches
- Ratfolk can store objects in their cheek pouches
- You can play an animate plant (e.g rosebush, vines, cactus, pumpkin, sunflower)
- You can play an animated doll
- You can play an awakened animal
- Goblins also love fire and can get feats to gain buffs when they set themselves on fire in combat
- You can be an element bender
- You can play a swashbuckler and make “I do a cool backflip” an entire mechanical thing that gives you buffs
- 3 words: Goblin Spoon Gun
Other people have mentioned how cleanly PF2e plays with stuff like 3 action combat, having DC’s always just be your bonus +10 is great, and crits are worth mentioning as well - 10 over a DC is a critical success, 10 under a critical fail, with consequences in most situations - but the flavour is what I love the most. The setting is still a fantasy kitchen sink, but it’s so much more detailed, creative, and expansive than anything D&D put out, able to cater to whatever ideas you throw at it. There are an incredible number of Adventure Paths, Modules, and Scenarios covering every adventure you could want, and they’re littered with plot threads for GMs to build on or ignore as they like - plus, you can use all the lore from 1e still, because they didn’t pull any silly bullshit with remaking the universe between editions. Then for 2e especially, there’s an incredible amount of mandatory flavour to character creation, choosing the specifics of your ancestry and class’s mechanics, and developing them as you level up, with an enormous number of options in order to bring your specific idea to life.
Anyway, you should make a goblin.
I like this explanation the best so far
Never played 1e, but my favorite points for 2e are:
For players: The amount of freedom you have to create and run a character can’t be overstated. The system is feat based, so two players with the same race+class combo can have vastly different characters. There’s actual options to combine races, not just “human+elf and human+orc are the only mixed people in the universe”. The three actions system is so clean and streamlined that once you use it you can never go back to the weirdness of dnd 5e. Also the classes are actually balanced, if you are a fighter player you won’t feel left behind because your mage friend learned to conjure meteor storms at the same time you learned to attack for the third time in a round.
For DMs: The game has real rules and restrictions, you won’t need to magically divine bonuses and penalities if your player decides to do some weird action or create rulings on the spot.
Pathfinder 1e is basically the old absurd buildcrafting of the D&D 3.5e splat sprawl, but with a solid balance pass to make it more workable.
Pathfinder 2e is basically “what if D&D 5e had decided to fix core issues with D&D’s design and also gone all in on making every character class flavorful and varied and also balanced it pretty well at the same time, instead of doing the exact opposite of all of that like it did.”
In my experience when you get familiar with DnD you start thinking a lot of “I wish I could play this class this way” or “I wish there was a system for x or y”. Now you could stick with DnD and create homebrew these yourself but if you don’t want to you can use the already rigorously tested and researched material from Paizo. My personal opinion having played PF 1e and 2e I prefer 1e.
Tired of making up house rules for crafting (and other stuff) in 5e (or buying splat books for it)? They already made rules for it, in the core rules!
Players don’t want to shell out money for a new rulebook? Paizo is literally giving the rules away for free.There’s way more options for everything, the leveling makes more sense, it’s more polished, and Paizo staff is unionized.
Paizo staff is unionized
This one’s big imo
Free stuff isn’t as much of a selling point since getting PDFs of the DnD rules is trivially easy with a simple google, it’s essentially free for any individual with even an inkling of piracy in their bones.
Every group I’ve ever been in has just shared the relevant PDFs with everyone
While it’s easy enough to get D&D’s rules for free, I think that, properly emphasised, it is a selling point - they’re completely free. Unless you want to buy the art and lore, you can access their official database of every single class, feat, monster, hazard, and item, for free, for ever. It really cannot be understated how much good will WotC bought with the OGL when they released 3rd edition, and Paizo are even more permissive than that.
you can access their official database of every single class, feat, monster, hazard, and item, for free, for ever
Is that why the free stuff on Foundry is so good for Pathfinder?
iirc the Foundry and AoN devs both get the info from their own pre-release copies of the rulebooks - because they’re all volunteers their schedules don’t necessarily align, so content will often turn up on one before the other. The PF2e system for Foundry is mostly so good because Paizo encourage those kinds of projects instead of quashing them over IP rights. Cultivating a community that actually likes them is like half of Paizo’s business plan.
Compared to 5e?
It’s like DnD but for adults
the highest selling point of pf1 is that it’s good for those who either lack imagination and need the books to create everything for them, or those who think complication equals complexity
as for 2e i have no idea
3.5 and PF 1e are inarguably extremely complex. The argument is whether they are in fact, too complex to facilitate useful roleplay
they are complex, i’m joking about the fact that a lot of the game is basically Accountant Simulator 2 (1 being 3.5)
Making a level 1 character is easy enough in 3.5, but it really starts piling up. The crazy charts fighters can work with makes me wanna stay as a caster most of the time.
He made one tweet. Honestly if media would just shut the fuck up he wouldn’t do it but if they keep talking about it he will solely so they keep talking about him
Just a reminder but he didn’t buy twitter because he wanted to, he bought it because he couldn’t keep his own mouth shut. He’s clearly being very careful not to walk himself into another idiotic purchase.
He wants to brag about how he’s able to buy giant companies single handedly because it makes him look like Bruce Wayne buying the hotel and climbing in the water fountain. But he doesn’t wanna actually follow through because it turns out that’s an awful investment strategy for one of the largest wealth hoards to ever exist.
Dexerto being treated like a serious news organisation and not some crypto chud’s billionaire toe licking blog is the issue here
I think the stronger parody would be if you could only play as your own sex because anything else would be trans ideology
You have to play as your Assigned at Birth Gender and all women receive a -2 to strength
There were rules like that in like 2.0 for old people, kids, and women. Nobody gave enough of a shit to be that pendantic.
And that’s what Melon wants, he wants the racist Gygax stuff.
Removed by mod
damn this really impacts my plans to play an all-villager party instead of trained adventurers
That heavily reminds me of Varg Vikernes’ weird nordic fash RPG with its noble aryan races, evil brown people called Koparmenn, women that are too weak to hunt big game and die from trivial shit and its adaption of the entire Beaufort scale for some goddamn reason.
I would love to see Musk turn D&D into a similar techno-fash abomination.
This would be the most hilarious outcome. I despise WotC and Hasbro, so I’d be okay with Musk destroying the company. Give Paizo more business. Maybe get more third party content created for PF2e.
I don’t like PF2e’s character building system though. It’s too “video-gamey”, it makes me think of Diablo 2.
For comparison, if I’m gonna be running a non D&D fantasy RPG, it’s gonna be WHFRP.
Video gamey? What part about it gives you that impression. Legitimate question as I don’t see it, granted I usually take a story based approach with character creation.
Not the person you’re asking, and I don’t know PF2e super well, but: it has felt very mechanics-first. You pick stuff from a list to make a build and play that. Sometimes that can inspire a cool story. Sometimes you have a story idea, and you find mechanical options that work nicely with it. But it still feels very constrained. Especially when it “doesn’t come online until 5th level”, so you end up playing something weird and off-story because you needed a level of rogue in order to such-and-such.
Contrast something like Fate where you free form come up with your high concept and aspects. If you want to play “psychic asshole Batman” you can just write “Psychic Vigilante” on your sheet, and don’t have to find feats or anything in a book. Your character can work and be yours from the start.
But that’s a very different mode of play. Some people really like the gamey buildy parts, and that’s fine too. (Except when you have a group and discover you all want to play an RPG, but that means incompatible things to folks, heh)
I really like Dungeon World, I prefer it to D&D. The other PBTA games are good too, there’s one for just about any theme you can imagine.
I do not believe Musk has ever played a TTRPG
God imagine having him as a DM
He would absolutely insert his companies into the game with like a character called ‘Teslus’ or something.
ALL MUST LOVE ME, AND DESPAIR
And if he has I can only imagine the disgusting level of “That Guy” he’d bring to the table if he did
I think he’d want to be “that guy” but then be kinda bad at it
He’d have a character Pre-built he got offline that was min/maxxed to shit and role play would just be that he was an epic badass knight who slayed pussy all the time. Plus he’s start PvP combat when it was totally inappropriate.
I’m gonna push back on the first part of this just because I’ve seen his Elden Ring “build” and that proves he’s literally incapable of asking for help including looking up builds online due to his oversized ego and he’s too stupid to even know how to min max
As for what he would play, maybe armorer artificer so he can do more cringe iron man memes
That character’s name? X.
Well, it’s not like he could make MTG any worse at this point, I guess.
Any MTG player should know that WOTC can always get worse
I don’t know how shit the game is rn, but I do know they released this card
Look at those two. I love it.
Side note: using words other than “said” for dialogue attribution is generally poor style, and a common mistake.
There’re a lot of blogs and books about it, but here’s the first one I found https://bookblog.kjodle.net/2011/06/06/he-said-she-said-the-fine-art-of-dialogue-attribution/
Mandatory Block-Chain MTG.
I mean, MTGO cards were basically NFTs before NFTs but without block-chain so it’s not even that big of a stretch for WotC as is
He’ll print off a hundred copies of Black Lotus just for himself to sign and sell at 3* the price of an original and the Elon Stans will buy it up within a day.
He’ll rebrand it into a game about the life of Marjorie Taylor Greene.
I recently started playing MTG A I was kinda confused about how people hated LOTR crossover. do you know why ?
Lord of the rings may seem innocent because it’s a similar ish setting but next year they are putting spiderman and spongebob in. peter griffin probably before too long.
MTG has a ton of in game lore to build from. Just feels like a cash grab to start pulling in other IPs.
The LOTR set also had some really overpowered cards and mechanics. The One Ring is still the most common card in modern.
The chud types were also pretty salty about black Aragorn and there’s no shortage of those assholes in the MTG community.
Not a MTG player myself but they probably don’t want the game to turn into the Fortnite of card games.
Yeah, this is the core of it. LOTR was basically fine on its own, but part of a trend that now brought us marvel set(s?) and now 1/2 of new sets will be outside IP.
It’s hardly outside IP; didn’t Spider-man beat up Yawgmoth alongside Urza?
Every expansion that is based on an IP like lord of the rings in another expansion that doesn’t build on the lore of magic the gathering. Wizards of the coast are also starting to do more crossovers in the future, which again makes the problem worse. Its a case of the company prioritizing short term profit from a IP linked set over the long term experience of the player base.
Lord of the Rings and the Forgotten Realms are fine, they take up a set that could be a new plane or an expansion of an existing one but at least it’s thematic sword fantasy. But add to that, Fallout, Warhammer 40k, Doctor Who, Transformers and some I probably forgot, it starts to be a bit much (most of those are Commander only I think, but still…)
If that was all restricted to Secret Lairs, low volume, collector bonuses, it wouldn’t be a big deal, but no, you need to have Optimus Prime fighting a Hive Tyrant
And to be clear, it’s not like people are psychotic about the crossovers. Pretty sure the reason is that Hasbro is doing an extreme number of them.
Yeah, true. Like half the expansions they have planned currently are crossovers iirc
A mean-spirited sequel to Big
.maybe something will finally kill that wretched game and people will play good RPGs instead
I might get the impetus to finally run a Powdermage game. Also Shadowrun seems to be making a comeback.
He’s going to make it known that the lord of Waterdeep was a DEI hire
The companions of Mithril hall is almost entirely DEI; A dwarf has human children? And his best friend is a Drow? Like what even is a Drow doing in Icewind Dale! Oh and of course he also has a halfling friend; not like he can have dwarf friends or anything! And this is just pure anti-magic bigotry; none of the companions are wizards but as is typical they’re happy to use magic weapons! Rather than be an all dwarf cast, they have on anyone but dwarves! Who’s this even catered to? Who’s this meant to appeal to? You think Drow are interested in this tale? Dwarves? Humans? This is just cultural Harperism.
cultural Harperism.