How many dead Palestinian kids will it take for you to change your vote?

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    16 hours ago

    Look kiddo, I would literally vote for a [genocidal] ham sandwich over Trump!

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    Congratulations on succesfully creating a lemmitor honeypot, Mr. Mayor rat-salute-2
    This feat has become increasingly difficult as the libs have sealed themselves off in their echo-chambers.
    Good heavens, would you look at the time? what-time-is-it

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    First they came for the communists, and I did not speak out—because I was not a communist.

    Then they came for the trade unionists, and I did not speak out—because I was not a trade unionist.

    Then they came for the Jews, and I did not speak out—because I was not a Jew.

    Then they came for me—and there was no one left to speak for me.

    First time a tragedy, second time a farce. My mom has been sending me these pre-written harangues to vote for Bomb-ala and this is all I can think of. The Democrats have already thrown Palestine under the bus. They have already thrown the people, families, and children at the southern border under the bus. Do you honestly think they are going to care about queers when it’s no longer expedient? Seriously?

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    I’m not going to pick arguments over votes in the presidential election, I’d be better off trying to bail out the high tide.

    If voting isn’t worth a whole lot, it’s not worth arguing with a liberal and making them double down, because that’s all that’s going to come of it.

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    They’ve explicitly told us it’s perfectly fine to sacrifice entire demographic groups for the sake of poltical expediency

    What the libs have done is create an avenue of least resistance, where the party elites correctly understand they’re free to condemn whole demographics to death to purchase the poltical loyalty of others

    This is quite literally the death of solidarity and labor organizing in the United States and there’s no coming back from that

    Today it’s Palestinians and immigrants, tomorrow it’s native americans and trans people and on and on until they reach the one demographic they’ve always wanted to dump and destroy; the black working class

    This is how fascism in America truly comes about, and so many have already failed what even five years ago would’ve been called the easiest test imaginable

    The dems normalized genocide, it’s Joever folks, this is what unplugging the life support of a left tradition looks like

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    My sister who’s literal job is human rights law just told me I am selfish because as a dude my rights are not harmed in the US by Trump so I am “allowed” to favor the rights of Palestinians. Absolute ghoul. I think it really bothers her that we tacitly agree on most everything, but I am willing to stand by my values.

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      It’s frightening how immediately hostile people become when they encounter someone who actually has principles and beliefs. The sudden aggression and attempts at coercion are always shocking.

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        They tell themselves that whatever they do is correct, it is the most anyone could be asked to do. And so those of us who challenge that make them confront the fact that they are cowards, that they are complicit

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        22 hours ago

        Newacctidk’s sister is right. One can have principles and still live in the real world. Dooming the Palestinians AND hundreds of other groups is called being callous, not principled.

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          I love how you settlers keep trying to position yourselves next to the Palestinians like you or anyone like you has jack-shit to lose in comparison to people literally getting bombed back to the fucking Stone Age rn. That’s truly the funniest thing-- and by ‘funniest’, I mean ‘physically sickening’. Please die screaming, you actual fucking ghoul. May like visit like. May you reap all your hateful, venomous, genocidal culture has sown.

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          A simpler rephrasing of this sentiment is “We must murder every Palestinian to prevent the death of vulnerable groups here.” How is this an acceptable position to you? Even if it was completely fruitless I would prefer to stand against the slaughter of an entire people than partake in the system perpetuating it, I can’t in good conscience do otherwise. We can do more than vote.

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          17 hours ago

          Dooming the Palestinians guarantees the doom of the other groups you dumb fuck, are you seriously under the delusion that state institutions once wedded to the industrial mechanisms of genocide will simply set those tools aside because what? They just really, really, really, didn’t like Palestinians and that’s all?

          The population control techniques of Israeli fascism are already in the text books of US law enforcement agencies, Israeli AI software that selects civilian families for slaughter will and have already been sold to the US military, the “right” of the US National Guard to mow down civilians has already been enshrined by executive order, IOF soldiers are literally stalking US campuses to dox and threaten any students who speak up…just where the fuck do you think this leading to

          You’re literally as delusional as a German in 1934 telling this friends that Hitler “will stop at the Jews, I promise” lmao get a fuckin grip you quisling

        • Frank [he/him, he/him]@hexbear.net
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          19 hours ago

          Y’all lesser eviled yourselves in to genocide. I didn’t condemn anyone. Democrats did. I’ve been trying to fight this shit my entire adult life. I’ve been fighting for decades. I’ve seen the loathing, the contempt, the hate in the eyes of nice, boring, middle income, fascist democrats. I always saw what you are but I didn’t understand what I was seeing. I won’t take the last step in to hell with you. I tried to stop this. You’re on your own. God damn you all.

        • REgon [they/them]@hexbear.net
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          20 hours ago

          Yes I’m certain Kamala “the law is the law” Harris will do all she can to help the many people she’s deported, just as soon as she’s confirmed in her belief that there is no consequence for committing a genocide.
          Surely voting for someone committing a genocide will only have the best of results for other marginalised groups she’s already shown she has, at the very best, a neutral attitude towards.
          Hey fuckface: The Dems are also persecuting those groups. The Dems were the ones that THIS YEAR cracked down on student protesters, yet I am to believe that they will somehow “protect democracy”? Literally insane. Actual doublethink.

          Now here’s also a novel concept: You do not support palestinians if you are murdering them. Saying you do something actually means fuck all. Thoughts and prayers might make you feel good, but that doesn’t stop the children from being burned alive.

          If I find out who you are and meet you, then I will stab you. This is an actionable threat.

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          21 hours ago

          Dooming Palestinians for your own benefit is callous, not principled you stupid fucking dweeb.

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            21 hours ago

            So you will doom them to even greater suffering for the benefit of whom?

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              The IOF disguised soldiers as doctors so they could attack a hospital and execute three men they “declared” to be Hamas. They were wounded and in the hospital to receive medical care. It’s hard to count the number of warcrimes the zionist entity commited just in that instance. Kamala has done nothing but state she will increase support. Israel gets support for committing warcrimes like using white phosporous - against civilians no less. Israel often bombs schools and hospitals.

              Here’s some facts about white phosphorous

              • It can burn even under water
              • It is ignited by contact with oxygen
              • White phosphorus reaches temperatures of 1,472 °F/800 °C. For comparison aluminum melts at 1,220 °F/660 °C
              • It causes deep and severe burns. It will penetrate through bone.
              • White phosphorus particles that have penetrated the skin, for example on shrapnel, starts to burn when the wound is opened and exposed to air. Your wounds will emanate with white and yellowish smoke. It will smell like garlic.
              • When it is on you, all you can do to smother the flame is to deprive it of oxygen. As soon as oxygen is reintroduced it will reignite. This means there is functionally no way of stopping it from burning you when it is on you.
              • Unless specialised personnel is present there’s not much more to do than remove you from the place with white phosporous and hope there’s not enough to burn you to death.
              • It sticks to you.
              • The smoke is toxic.
              • Inhalation of the smoke will make your throat scratchy. You will begin to cough. You will get headaches. Anything more than a brief inhalation and you will develop a lung oedema later on.
              • White phosporous is toxic in itself. Ingesting it (like if it is on a massive wound burned on you by white phosporous and it gets into your bloodstream) will lead to a litany of deadly malaises.
              • After it is used on you, libs will handwring about wether or not it was actually a war crime.

              But Trump would be worse so all this is fine. I’m sure the concentration camps and mass graves would be worse under Trump because he’d tweet about them or something.

              CW: SV

              Trump would have even more palestinians systematically (be forced to engage in sexual relations) with dogs

              Edit: This song is about you We didn’t know

            • ShimmeringKoi [comrade/them]@hexbear.net
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              uhh well they would suffer…uh…MORE! from the white phosphorous andremoved camps if orange man was the one giving his support!

              You are nearly fully nazified

            • dkr567 [comrade/them, he/him]@hexbear.net
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              The only groups that are dooming the Palestinians are the ones that you are in support of. You liberals at some point really need to unlock the ability to think critically and do some fucking reading about what your country does at international level, which don’t worry I know it will never happen.

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              Harris’s goal is the extermination of every Palestinian in Gaza. She’s going to end the suffering of Palestinians one Palestinian at a time until there are no Palestinians.

              Liberals have spent a decade screaming at me about Uighur genocide, Ukraine genocide, Poland genocide, all sorts of Soviet genocide. I did a lot of reading. I know more than you. I know what is going to happen. I know how and why each action taken by the dog of NATO is being taken. I understand the kayfabe they’re performing, using Bibi to soak up the hatred while they implement their final solution to the Palestinian question.

              You Democrats could stop this. There are tens of millions of you. Many thousands who have access. A few dozen knives could bring this to an end in an evening. You could stop this and you won’t.

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              THEY ARE BEING PUT IN CONCENTRATION CAMPS AND BOMBED TO DEATH WHAT THE FUCK COULD MAKE IT WORSE, YOU FLAT ASS

              My god please fucking just… Think. Goddammit, just say you don’t give a fuck about brown people, at least be honest. There’s no difference between republicans and democrats but at least the republicans have the decency not to tell the most bold faced lies.
              Just say you’re racist, just say you want them to die. We can drop this charade. This whole pretending isn’t fooling anyone

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              21 hours ago

              I have not doomed anyone. The current administration has doomed hundreds of thousands, potentially millions of Palestinians.

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              What greater suffering you fucking buffoon? What can Trump even do worse you stupid spineless piece of fucking shit?

              Absolutely evil fucking moron, let me guess “he’s gonna let them use nukes” right?

              THAT’S NOT HOW NUKES OR GENOCIDE WORK YOU BRAINLESS GENOCIDAL GODDAMNED DEMON

        • Venat [he/him, any]@hexbear.net
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          A large flaw in Hexbear’s dialogue is that it does not regard outsiders ignorance. Hexbear is mostly an insider group where established axioms and knowledge are shared as common knowledge, and therefore not entirely elaborated. It isn’t a substitute for dialogue, but becomes an echo chamber - fine in its own right - and stifles understanding of right and wrong to “vibes”.

          We should know, intellectually and not only emotionally, why your assumption and the human rights attorney’s assumption are flawed.

          Your assumption should lead to a question rather than a definitive conclusion. The question should be : How do persecuted groups in the US going to suffer under Biden & Harris?

          Of course, the entire premise is that voting is the most important and sometimes sole act of political agency that can actually change the politics of the state. Ask yourself, is that true? Has not foreign and domestic policy remained consistent among administrations and Congresses in its degradation of quality of American life for the past 50 years?

    • MayoPete [he/him, comrade/them]@hexbear.netOP
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      Ask her why biden-troll , in power right now, with expanded executive powers thanks to the Supreme Court, hasn’t done a damn thing to help on this issue? It’s so fucking dumb these people pretend they are powerless when they get elected. And so many people keep falling for it football-lucy