Link: https://mindmatters.ai/2020/11/computer-science-explains-why-communism-cant-work/
Reminder that “computer science” isn’t, by definition, a “real” science, because it doesn’t use the Scientific Method’s hypothesis-prediction-observation system. Strictly speaking, it’s engineering, not science.
What about Project Cybersyn and how it helped Chile against blockades? And that was almost half a century ago.
Exactly. I have no idea what this article is going on about.
Didn’t know about this, could you explain it to me comrade? Don’t have enough time to find a non-westoid article about it
Basically, Chile was embargoed by (IIRC) the US, but they kept the country going despite it through the use of computer calculations to plan their economy. This was decades ago so imagine how much more effective computer-aided planned economy can be now.
I don’t understand why people like this think that every problem has to be solved PERFECTLY by central planning (aka communism) and if every problem is not solved perfectly, it is considered an indictment of the system. Heuristics are not allowed. But they will obviously never hold whatever system they are shilling for to the same standards. The response to theoretical computational problems being NP complete is to throw your hands in the air and let the invisible hand of the free market decide which poor person should die first.
Please tell me how every road you have taken in your capitalist country has been optimised to perfection and how capitalism has solved the travelling salesman problem.
Exactly what I was going to say. The n problems they listed apply to most companies under capitalism too, especially in our age of monopolies.
I lost brain cells from reading that article. “Communism is when central planning, which is impossible because it’s very hard to mathematically optimize.” This dude should’ve got got in Afghanistan.
Computers (and AI or whatever the buzzword of the month is) can solve LITERALLY EVERYTHING, except central planning. Apparently.
Also, why is it that imperialists always have shit eating, super punchable grins?
Interesting…I wonder what this model would say about an economic system that relies on infinite growth?
I just invented a whole new way of dealing with NP-hard problems you guys! Just reduce them to a free market equilibrium problem, run a couple of rounds of iterative price finding between rational agents and voila, optimal solution!
Send it to comrade Cockshott
I’ve heard them mentioned twice now. Who are they?
Based scottish computer scientist marxist. Does a lot of work in proving marxism scientifically. His book towards a new socialism should be required reading.
here’s a good intro to him.
Comrade Cockshott is a British Marxist economist and computer scientist. He does a lot of work on using computers to plan economies
Communism bad - Skynet
Fun fact: In Star Trek, World War 3 did not annihilated humanity because soviet developed strategic AI used its nuclear and antimissile arsenal to destroy most of the missiles launched by all sides of the war.
Also, these articles are ALWAYS at like a 6th grade reading level. Guess you gotta know your audience.
Paul Cockshott should write a program to simulate competing economies, one governed by the profit motive, and the other by the labor theory of value.
No joke, I’m 99% sure it’s been done already.
At university I asked a physics professor if it would be physically possible to build a mega structure like an orbital ring or space elevator. The professor told me it wasn’t a physics problem it was an engineering problem.
I can tell an engineer that they are not a scientist when they tell me they don’t yet know how to solve the engineering problems of building a space elevator. While true the engineering problem is still unsolved.
There are some editorials in the article that are unprovable like statements about morality. But some of these problems are really hard, and until some major breakthrough happens they will stay that way.
