I was gonna ask about the biometrics part in a separate question, but its both about security, so might as well combine it in one post.

Okay so I don’t use password managers. I just try to make easy to remember passwords 3-4 random words + 3-4 random numbers. Online accounts can’t be brute forced anyways. Edit: I mean most websites have log in limits don’t they? Maybe I’ve been mistaken?

For offline accounts, I just increase the words and numbers. For mobile I don’t use biometrics, although I’ve been testing whether or not I want a pin + no biometrics or alphanumeric password + biometrics. I just can’t decide.

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      Same with bitwarden, I recently made my wife change from google because I don’t trust how they could be managing that kind of data.

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        What benefit could it be to Google for them to have access to your user and passwords?

        Genuinely curious, I use bitwarden myself but can’t see Google using their password manager for nefarious reasons

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          Sure, probably they won’t use it for bad purposes.
          But there’s nothing saying they won’t use them in any way they see fit.
          Maybe they could find a way to find monetize without disclosing them and anonymized, like statistics or with the update in their policy about training their models with whatever information they can get.
          Maybe you have an ad blocker and AdSense can’t build a profile from you, but the google already know what sites you were interested enough to make an account and could try to advertise in other ways.

          And then the biggest issue: there’s no mention of encryption, so who knows how they store them and where. Could an attacker read them? How are google employees prevented from reading them?

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            Also, what’s stored at Google is not only accessible by Google, it’s also typically accessible (probably paid for) by intelligence agencies and law enforcement. The Snowden revelations showed that. Same is true for every other big tech company. Even if you think that’s still not a problem because you’re not doing anything wrong, it could be a problem if you’re ever falsely accused of a crime. There are innocent people being thrown into jail for life. Our systems aren’t perfect, so don’t assume nothing will ever happen to you. Also, if you should find yourself living under a fascist government in the future, they could use your past data to actively target you. This is also not entirely unlikely, because the right-wing is currently quite strong again and who knows what will happen after massive socio-political changes due to climate change and more and more uninhabitable or flooded areas.

            Don’t give those data hoarders more of your data voluntarily. Only give them the least amount of data possible. Keep private things as private as possible. Everything else can only have negative consequences for you down the road. And that road could be very long, many years long. Decades, even. The data about you never goes away. Storage is cheap.

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      Whats the reason proton pass is looking better? I just started my switch to bitwarden, I used to use enpass offline on windows.

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    Open sourced password manager + open source 2fa wherever available. For password managers many will suggest Bitwarden & i recommend that to my family for its ease of use, though I personally use Keepass (because it allows me to store multiple documents & have them readily available offline. Its not as straightforward to set up sync compared to Bitwarden, which does it by default).

    I would never allow a browser to store any information such as passwords, credit card info etc

    On mobile I use password in conjunction with biometrics. Sensitive apps are only ever stored inside secure folder which has no biometric access & has a different password to main area of phone.

    I absolutely refuse to use google/apple/samsung pay.

    Please consider password manager, once you wrap your head around not knowing any of your passwords except the strong master password it becomes second nature. Get out of the pen & paper habit!

    Top tip. For any new signup, once you’ve generated a strong password make a note within the password manager of the email address you used to sign up with (yep, get used to using multiple email accounts). When that site inevitability suffers a data breach it makes life easier when they send the change of password verification email

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    I write my passwords down using a diamond-point scriber on a tablet of solid gold, which I keep in a secure location.

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      Sounds good. Since I’m so amazed by your security, I’d like to volunter to act as security for your tablet of solid gold, would you mind telling me the location? 😉

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    Online accounts can’t be bruteforced

    I’m sorry, but that’s just wrong.

    Majority of sites have awful security practices, not to mention massive breaches.

    Get yourself either a password manager (Bitwarden is the best), or something like Yubikey + unique sentences.

    Biometrics do not provide security, they’re purely for convenience.

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    I run my own instance of vaultwarden (100% compatible fork of bitwarden) and use the standard bitwarden client on Android and browser plugin in Firefox. My master password is really long and I use 16 character passwords as standard in BW. I have biometric set up for my phone just to make it a bit less hassle.

    Edit: and I set up MFA wherever possible with a yubikey

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    This may be a dumb question and I see here as well as elsewhere that a password manager is the best option. What makes a password manager safer than managing passwords yourself? I see the efficiency and ease of us aspects, but I’m less clear on the security portion. Thank you!

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      Basically, they enable you to have a different, randomly generated and very long password for each service with minimal impact to your usability.

      Personally I use keepassxc with the accompanying browser addon. When I unlock my PC and need a password, I have to enter my master passwort to unlock the database. Afterwards, until I lock my PC again or manually lock the database, I can click on a single button in my browser window to automatically fill out my login information. I do not know any of my passwords beside the master passwort.

      I have yet to need the forget password option after switching to a password manager since I can always look up my passwords.

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    I’m using keepass on pc and Keepass2android offline on mobile. Protected only with a big password (you can memorize it ~however long it is, as long as you sit 15mins to learn it and use it from time to time). I try to use long random passwords (made by me). I haven’t uploaded my database anywhere online. I might have printed it though.🙃

    For only a few logins, I’ve saved them on my browser.

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    I have been a paying costumer for bitwarden for couple years, but now I am planning to switch to proton pass soon. $1 for unlimited email alias is simply too good.

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    Would strongly recommend a password manager. I use bitwarden, you can use self host it or not. If you don’t like bitwarden there are plenty of free options. Random password generation and sync is going to be a better practice than much else I can think of, so I’d encourage you to go for it! 😬

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    Bitwarden for my personal stuff, KeePass for work (like to keep everything separated). Biometrics on devices that support it. I used to do what you did, and then Facebook got hacked and all my other online accounts fell like a house of cards, found out when my friend texted me asking WTF was going on and why was I posting links to porn sites everywhere. So, password manager and strong passwords for all the things. MFA is something that needs to become more common as well.

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    I manage my passwords with Bitwarden and Authy for 2FA. Another good option, is to use KeepasXC with Symcthing to have the passwords both on the pc and smartphone