• 11111one11111@lemmy.world
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    5 months ago

    Why not vote 3rd party in states that only go one direction? Take NY for instance. What the fuck harm comes from voting 3rd party assholes for president? One time the state elected a republican candidate and it was (still is I think) the largest landslide in history. I’m 36 and have always hated the 2 party system. It’s been easier and easier as I got older too with increasing political polarity.

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      Because if enough people do that, it actually can result in that state not “doing what it always does.”

      Assuming voting for X is going to result in Y getting elected over Z “anyways” is not a good strategy for getting what you want.

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        What I want is more than 2 fucking options. What you are assuming is that I wouldn’t get what I want if a conservative won NY. For this to happen there would need to be a mass exodus of democrats abandoning their party to vote conservative. So for that to happen either the democratic candidate is God awful or the conservative is a homerun. Either way I dont give a fuck.

        I vote for my interests in state and local elections. Presidential elections in NY are the least concerning elections as they should be for every fuckin American.

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          If you want more than two options vote for Democrats in primaries that support ranked choice voting initiatives. As it stands, you realistically have a binary choice and until you have ranked choice voting that will continue to be true.

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          This, comments like “Presidential elections in NY are the least concerning elections as they should be for every fuckin American” is how you know someone is a kid. Saying the presidential election is the least concerning election? The guy who appoints Supreme Court Justices that shape our laws and lives? The guy who basically runs the country, don’t worry about that one. What the actual fuck lol.

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            5 months ago

            Gave my age in the parent comment of the one you replied to mid-thread. Unless you already saw it and are asserting that my age qualifies me as a child! In that case, my receding hair line is flattered!

            Overreacting to comments that don’t align with your own doesn’t give away age but sure as shit shows your maturity.

            Read my parent comments for better context and if you need help understanding the fundamentals of federal, state and local elections, I’m happy to explain further! 🍻

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              Well first, you can lie, it’s the Internet, it’s known to happen from time to time. You could be older but I find that idea worrying and a little depressing.

              Secondly, me pointing out that saying “presedetail elections should be the least concerning elections to everyone” is just straight ignorance. I mean you don’t even seem to understand the impact of the Supreme Court on every day citizens alone (abortion rights much) and how they are appointed, why would I bother sift through your nonsense comments lol.

              Either way, hope you get some good information/education from all the responses people are giving ya! 🍻

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                So you didn’t read the comments that added context lol. Starting to think this is more of a reading comprehension issue lol.

                So Ill give you the outline:

                I live in NY.

                There would have to be like 5 million democrats voting republican to even create a scenario where my voting 3rd party affected the outcome.

                NY goes democratic every election no matter what my vote is for. For that reason the presidential election is the least important election.

                The quote you keep taking out of context emphasized the importance of voting for EVERY elected official because even with Roe v Wade over turned nothing has changed where I live for how abortions are handled.

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                  Yes, so let me introduce this concept called “swing states” where it is not like NY. There, votes matter. So them voting does matter and have an impact. Either way, even if you know your state will go one way, the outcome of the election is still very impactful to citizens.

                  You said the presidential election should be the least concerning election for everyone. That’s just wrong. Swing states have power and the president can impact everyone. It is very consequential to multiple people.

                  If you’re upset that NY is always blue blame republicans who are against getting rid of the electoral college and having rank choice voting.

                  Or you can just keep insulting me because I disagree with you, that’s a very Republican move.

                  But sure, over turning Row v Wade hasn’t impacted you directly so it doesn’t matter. No one should be concerned about the president because big changes to law haven’t impacted you so they shouldn’t matter to anyone. Jfc… Some people were impacted you know, you are aware of that right? And that was a direct result of the president that was elected selecting a conservative justice. But hey, it didn’t effect you so it shouldn’t matter to anyone right?

                  “Presidential elections in NY are the least concerning elections as they should be for every fuckin American.”

                  You can say I have a comprehension issues all you want, but you seem to think all voters shouldn’t care about the presidental election because it won’t impact you in NY, big lol.