Apple might turn evil? They have always been evil, and goole is evil to. Try a free android distro like CalyxOS, GraphineOS, LineageOS or /e/OS. This is not a complete list.
Any that can run on a Samsung flagship?
Lineage or Calyx should have you covered.
I recently picked up a Fairphone 4. I got it mostly because of the removable battery and easy repairing, but it’s nice to know I’m supporting a manufacturer that cares about sustainability.
Cool, are those the modular ones intended to be able to replace all the different pieces of it?
Yup. Basically every part of the phone is repairable and replaceable. I bought it after I accidentally water damaged my previous phone- an LG V20 that had served me faithfully for almost 6 years. I initially thought I might be able to just replace the display of my V20 because the rest of it works fine, but LG no longer makes phones (and the V20 is an older model), so I didn’t have much option.
I use GrapheneOS on Pixel.
Ahh cool, I’ve messed around with rooting, bootloaders, TWRP, and Lineage OS and all that stuff when I was younger, and I kept bricking my devices. I don’t do that anymore nowadays. Too much hassle.
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All of that is 100x harder than installing Graphene. Graphene can be installed by almost anyone who can watch this video: https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=ZAZlmYKrwfk
Pixel 6 Pro running GrapheneOS, which I got a couple months ago. Pixel phones are the only ones compatible with GrapheneOS, otherwise I would’ve kept my Samsung phone tbh
Practically same story here. Pixel 7 Pro here, also running Graphene. Switched off my trusty Note9 only because graphene only supports Pixels.
So I know I’m in the minority not really caring all that much about the whole Google ecosystem, I enjoy it and how everything stays connected, I’m not necessarily on a crusade to prevent all data tracking on myself and all of that.
I have a Pixel 6 Pro as well and looks like I’m gonna wait until the 9 pro to upgrade again if possible, my 6 pro is over a year old and still showing no signs of stopping, still plenty of power for everything I need it for and beyond. Is there anything beyond de-googling that GrapheneOS provides? Can I stay google-ified while running it? Just trying to see what kind of benefits it provides other than de-googling
Same story as you, afraid of evil corporations, wanting to take more control over my data, so I changed to a pixel 7 pro with GraphenOS.
If you’re wondering how buying a phone from Google helps in this you can read the answer in here https://discuss.grapheneos.org/d/2989-pixel-phone-vs-samsung-or-others
only Pixels that support alternate OS and allowing them full use/access to all the hardware security features.
iOS because Apple ecosystem is much more convenient and consistent. I do not worry so much about the struggle you mentioned because the EU will fix it (see USB-C, sideoading, more to come)
Currently using a Google Pixel 5 that’s running CalyxOS.
Ditched Apple after they initially announced they were going to start screening messages and photos (although they later walked that back). I value privacy, and hence hate Google. But Google do make sole good hardware. CalyxOS allows me to have the best of both worlds… a privacy-centric OS, running on decent hardware that’s compatible with any Android app (although you still need to be a little careful what you install from a privacy perspective).
I am aware that more modern Pixel models have been released, but I’m waiting for one that’s a little less massive. Every model since the Pixel 5 has been larger than it.
I also have a Pixel 5 and like the size of it. Whenever I handle my wife’s Pixel 6 it feels freaking huge.
Was thinking about Calyx or Graphene. Is it pretty low fuss for daily use?
I was on Graphene but switched to Calyx. Personally, I find easier. The integration of microG helps with a few things, such as apps stuck using Google’s push notification service and apps that require SafetyNet. I was going to try Graphene again, but I was thinking of waiting for a new phone.
Calyx is very nice. I’ve found it to be no fuss at all.
Google pixel 6a with grapheneOS
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iPhone 11. I agree on the dangers of corps turning evil, but I don’t agree that the solution is to move from ”might turn evil in the future” (Apple) to ”already pretty far in the evil camp” (Google). This is already becoming apparent with the enshittification of Google search. Chromium and Android will soon follow.
I am in the same boat, in my world Apple is better than Google. It works a bit better out of the box, and lately I don’t use my phone for a lot of things anyway, mostly doomscrolling on reddit (now lemmy).
Google Pixel 4a with GrapheneOS
nice. +1
Hey family same here
FairPhone 4 because it is the only phone with removable battery and LineageOS support.
Fairphone 4.
I don’t play demanding games on my phone, so I don’t need some overpriced flagship device.
What I do need is a consumer-replaceable battery and as many other parts as I can get. This means I can get replacement rear- and front-facing camera, earpiece, loudspeaker, USB port, display, back cover and of course battery. All from the original vendor and replacement can be done by me, armed with only a small screwdriver and maybe a spudger for the display.
Over all this is probably one of the most repairable phones and I bought it hoping it will last me 10 years.I’m currently running Iodé (Android) but hope to switch to PostmarketOS in the future. Maybe with a detour via Ubuntu phone.
Android because I like the freedom it provides.
As for the phone I’m using. It’s a Oneplus 3 I got a few years back, it’s falling apart but I can’t afford changing it, so I’ll be using it till its last breath.
Zed’s phone is almost dead, babe. 😉
Apple has always been greedy, in my opinion, but seldom evil.
They are the only major corporation that still makes an effort for privacy (though many people are understandably very skeptical) e.g.
- fully end-to-end-encrypting most of your iCloud data,
- blocking tracking pixels in Mail (not technically correct, but good enough approximation)
- having iCloud Private Relay (something like Tor network) built into Safari
- blocking tracking of your behaviour by anonymising your device
- they even scramble data about your Maps trips, inserting wrong information before they send analytics back to themselves, through what is called differential privacy.
Other reasons I use iOS:
- They offer software updates for >6 years, so I really get great bang for my buck. Total cost of ownership is typically less than other flagship products.
- Integration with their other products.
- General polish, smoothness and ease of use.
I too rely on governments to rein in their greediness (e.g. Right to Repair, having multiple App Stores, etc.)
They offer software updates for >6 years
That was the reason why I migrated to iPhone last year.
I used Android for many years, but I got tired of vendors stopping system updates after 6 months or so of a model being out.
I keep my phone at least 4-5 years, even more if it doesn’t break, and with all the sensitive data and apps we keep on it nowadays (mobile banking, digital identities, authenticators, etc.) it’s not acceptable to stay years without security fixes.
It’s true that apple devices are expensive but it’s enough to not buy the latest models, get a bit older one and you can get it for the same price as a medium-high Android.
Android. Pixel 7. Because it’s a pretty close to stock experience and Pixels get updates the quickest and most frequent updates compared to other Android phones.
How is it in terms of speed/responsiveness? I’ve been considering getting one
Every pixel I’ve ever had has been extremely responsive. My OG Pixel XL, my Pixel 2 XL, my Pixel 4 XL, and my current Pixel 6 Pro were always very responsive and didn’t seem to slow down at any point. I’d imagine the OG Pixel XL is probably a little.laggy-feeling compared to the newest pixels but yeah; hate to admit it, because I don’t like iPhones, but the Pixel series is like the Iphone of Androids - and only the good things about the iPhone being only manufactured by 1 company - it’s the phone of the actual developer of the OS and gets lots of extra features first because of it, only stock OS apps preinstalled except for maybe a carrier app if phone is financed through them (I have the T-Mobile app on my current Pixel, for example). Super nice build quality, I’ve always ended up being tougher on my phones and the Pixels have held up really really well. Highly recommend them honestly.
