The show’s good btw…

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    Are you referring to some pre-capitalism economic systems?

    Like Feudalism? Greco-Roman slave-based economies? Tribal subsistence economies? Mesopotamian barter-based economies? Ancient Indian caste-based economies?

    Seriously, which system are you pointing to that holds answers? I’m not against your position, I just can’t imagine what you mean.

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      Are you referring to some pre-capitalism economic systems?

      Yes. The person with the hammer and sickle handle, who moderates Leftypedia, thinks we should retvrn to a caste system. You nailed it. Your question is definitely in good faith.

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        Communism is not pre-capitalistic.

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            But… you sarcastically implied the answer to the question “what pre-capitalistic system are you referring to” is communism. I can’t get a read on you unless you’re just very confused, bro.

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              The answer to the question is, “None,” because it’s a stupid question.

              It’s like if somebody said they hate cars, and we can do without them. Then some stupid asshole said, “I see. Should we return to the horse and buggy? Perhaps the rickshaw? Chariots, perhaps? Maybe a world where kings are carried on a throne upon the shoulders of slaves? Or maybe just piggyback rides? Kindly ignore the existence of trains and bicycles. Thanks!”

              I reject the premise of the question, because the question isn’t asked in good faith, and is fucking stupid.

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                As you wish – and I agree with you – but you must admit that sarcastically implying the answer is communism isn’t conducive to your position.

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        8 months ago

        I don’t know where you’re getting all that information, because I’m on mobile and I don’t see any of that.

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      8 months ago

      Capitalistic Socialism seems the most successful offshoot of Capitalism. Pure Capitalism is killing its social networks, and the fabric of that system’s societies is falling apart.

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        It was just the statement that “human society has always been able to solve it’s problems” followed by a condemnation of capitalism. So I assumed there was some prior system that worked better for solving problems.

        I guess they say Mussolini made the trains run on time. And Egypt’s slave economy was stable for thousands of years.

        It’s like I said, I can’t see a prior example that is not meaner and uglier than capitalism, or at least as mean and ugly.

        Capitalistic Socialism may indeed be a better path for the future. But I didn’t think it could be the original poster’s intent.

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          apparently “egypts slave economy” is largely debunked. they had slaves like every other stone age culture, but their economy (and pyramid building) relied largely on paid labor

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              For the records, saying that capitalism is temporary does not imply OP desires reverting to a previously existing economic system either, so the egypt thing was a non-sequitor anyways

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      I’d diagnose the problem similarly to the person you replied to and I don’t think I’d feel compelled to offer a specific remedy either.

      People have been experimenting with economies and societies for thousands of years and we are in a relatively new money/power/control stuck spot right now. I’m sure there’s been a system in history that would work much better than what we’ve got, but I just read recreationally so I dunno what it is and just because something worked 1000 years ago in North America doesn’t mean it’ll work here today. I wouldn’t mind giving something new a shot though, what we have is not working for most people.