This question is social/political, and meant to trigger a nice debate on the negatives of imbalanced infinite progressivism we seem to be heading in social and technological spheres, ignoring science, practicality and reason.

Let me put up a disclaimer that I am not trying to poke transgender community here. I am trying to hint towards the “traditional” gender roles that seem to be frowned upon in a cultist manner, even though it is accepted in an unspoken manner that most of us do prefer a lot of “traditional” aspects once we surpass 30s, and life demands responsibility, accountability and maturity.

8values made me think of the fundamental parameters that we gauge ourselves and others on, and this seems like it would have opinions coming from leftists that frown upon traditional values in an almost religious manner, as well as centrists and conservatives that might not have as traditional views as leftists think. Just an open discussion.

We can replace “progressivism” with “liberty” and “nationalism” and create couple more questions, but those are not as debatable I think.

  • Tobberone@lemm.ee
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    3 个月前

    “Leftist”, “centrist” and “conservative”? This is not a the open discussion it is made out to be.

    Having said that, those “traditional” values mentioned could easily be replaced with conservative values, especially when compared to the very individual, almost liberal, value of freedom to express oneself it is hard to see anything being “leftist” in the premiss of the discussion. Unless you are so far off the scale to the right that everything looks left…

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      3 个月前

      My point is breaking the old norms should be seen as a flexible tool and not a rigid ideological thing where if you have a prybar, every problem looks like a crusty door.

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        So, norms that aren’t serving us should absolutely be broken. That’s not to say we can’t apply a little Chesterton’s Fence, look around for what purpose it serves, but the old norms aren’t holy for being old. If they aren’t net positive, fuck 'em.