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    I don’t agree, it feels like you are excusing stalman for his behavior because other people also behave the way stalman does. That is not how that works ESPECIALLY when someone represents the figurehead for an entire movement/community. Is stalman significantly more toxic than many 68 year old white men? He definitely isn’t alone in his behavior but the point is its one thing if its your retired uncle who behaves this way and its another if its someone who has a ton of responsibility to shape a community.

    Stalman’s time has far past.

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        is there a thing such as unnecessary commotion ? Since we have had good discussions on the anarchist community I feel compelled to ask you if this isn’t just a point made by people who are not affected by his negative behavior. as in it’s easier to forgive racism when one is white. I hope it’s not the case and I have misunderstood you.

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            And last but not least, I find it really questionable that people who claim to fight against discrimination, now dogpile on a clearly weak target who to a large extend seems to have said the things he did because of his asberger syndrome or something like that. What kind of shitty bullying is that?

            legit causes can always be used to get acquire more power etc… but I don’t see how it can be good for him to return.

            Why does it have to be total annihilation? In the grander scheme of things RMS is a small fish that is in some ways more of a friend than an enemy.

            I am unaware of rms efforts to change, I am also unaware of him having changed positions and showing it with action. At worst, him coming back(with the small amount of information I have) sounds just like defiance and lack of respect for oppressed people.

            There was so much bad blood over this, why can’t we just move on and accept this peace offer to the other side?

            As someone who believes in restorative justice I’d like to know more about the peace offer. :)

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                sounds like trolling. sounds like ignorance at best, if that’s the case I am sorry this is not a good place to help you. if it’s the former … see you later

                yeah definetly trolling

                legit causes can always be used to get acquire more power etc… but I don’t see how it can be good for him to return.

                was clearly a criticism towards the fact we can legit causes to get power and exclude rms.

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                    I advocate for a society in which we don’t miss the opportunity of working with talented people because toxic behavior drives them away from contributing to a better society. But I also believe that we should first ensure people’s right to live, so I wouldn’t refuse access to vaccines based on these principles. I am more likely to ask the company to try to put money(if possible) in education programs, giving the people a chance to act towards change seems to work a long way to build justice.

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