I just came to know of a woman who was raped. i.e., not on TV but in real life, I saw her sobbing face. I didn’t have a clue what to do. I believe the right thing to tell her would have been to say, go to the police right now and give a rape exam, this would at least make sure there is a small chance that the scumbags who committed the crime would be caught for good.

Now, I didn’t muster up enough courage to do it. Instead I thought “Well, why should I care about her? I am pretty sure lots of women get raped every day, why should I care about her? I am late for something and I should get going” and I did get going. Moreover, she was swarmed by a ton of women consoling her and I doubt if she wanted to talk to man right now. And moreover, I can’t imagine it being an easy job to convince her to do anything in that stage. So, I just left her be to the mercy of women gathered there and I just came to know that the good rowdies of the street offered the woman to freshen up at their house, thus most likely erasing all trace of the crime from her body. Now, their mothers and sisters live there and I made sure that she left their bloody house (i.e., Ik, I didn’t drag her out) because I think the rowdies of the street are beyond doing the horrible act themselves.

But yeah, I did a morally reprehensible thing where one needed moral courage, just because I didn’t want to do the hard work and sacrifice my own time for the betterment of an other.

  1. And the man/men who committed that act on her, did it most probably because they were resentful and they liked doing it. So, how does one decide what is moral and immoral?

I did it because I liked it doesn’t really to seem to have worked out in this situation. I didn’t do it because I didn’t like it (i.e., me) doesn’t seem to be a stellar option either.


This didn’t happen but,

Bonus question: If that victim was say standing on a train line here, what should one do? What should a man do? Should he make sure to use his force to remove her from the spot and thus “saving her” but in the process exerting control and taking away the one act of free will she has done since the horrible incident? Who says saving her is the “right” thing to do?


Again, putting myself as the first priority, I am not going to reply until I am free.


These issues need to be probed much deeper than a post on lemmy, so are there any books on moral questions relating to what I am asking here which you know of, in which case please mention it.

  • @m0darn@lemmy.ca
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    What makes something moral or immoral?

    If you get a universal answer please let me know. Brilliant philosophers have argued about this for thousands of years. It’s probably the most important question in philosophy. A universally satisfying answer would be like Einstein’s theory of general relativity.

    I think in reality people usually decide what’s moral based on intuitions learnt/taught in childhood.

    Philosophers disagree about if the same (in)action made with different intents has the same moral value. Ie it’s not agreed that “doing nothing because you’re too busy” is morally different than “doing nothing because you’re trying to be sensitive to her wants”.

    If you felt like your presence wasn’t wanted you were probably right. Is there a reason to think the people already attending her wouldn’t have thought to suggest a rape kit?

    What impacts did your inaction really have?

    Okay enough consoling you. This isn’t really about you, it’s about her and people that might be in a situation like hers in the future.

    Regardless of whether or not you should have done things differently then, is there anything you can do right now? There are probably lots of things you could do to reduce the chance of something like this happening again in that neighborhood. Think of 3 yourself then get 2 more from people that know the situation better. Pick one of the 5 and do it.